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To: LindyBill who wrote (36339)	4/17/2007 3:19:37 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541853

I see. Having the police around "doesn't work"? Gosh. In my area they work pretty well. Considering this shooting is the worst ever, I'd say things in the US, on average, work pretty well. You don't think the police do a fine job for the most part? That's question number one. You can call relying on the police "national nanny"- but I like to think of it as an organized civilized society with compartmentalization of responsibility. Not everyone is able, even with training, to do the job of a policeman. So to think you can make the citizenry at large in to police, or people who can perform a police function, seems a little strange to me. So question number 2, you don't think specialized police training gives us an individual better able to respond to a situation like this? I don't want the police to solve all the problems, just the ones they are trained for. If there was a chemical spill I'd want a toxics trained team of emergency specialists on it, and for accounting errors call in the CPAs- but yes, for the problems surrounding deranged gunmen I am more than happy to say that I think the police and other law enforcement agencies can handle this best. And question number 3, how about that problem with suicide if you give kids guns? So stop trying to tell me I want something I don't really want, and let's deal with this issue by issue. Unless that's too logical and unemotional. Is it too logical and unemotional?

To: LindyBill who wrote (36339)	4/17/2007 3:22:14 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541853

Well the latest information on the gunman...and one I anticipated is that he had psychological problems.. How did they manifest themselves ? He was a loner... He rarely spoke not even to his roommate.. I think that if I were in a dorm where any student manifested either of these symptoms I would have reached out to see what could be done We ignore those loners too much and when you read about all those who have gone berserk the one trait they all seem have in common : he had no friends or he was a loner..