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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (76225)	4/18/2007 2:44:19 PM
From: benwood	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Message 23470445 I wouldn't restrict the training to just handguns, btw, so my "people" whomever they are would have stopped this guy. There was a murder-suicide just three blocks from my office a couple weeks ago in Seattle (at Univ of Wash). You being there would likely not have changed a thing, although if you were quick reacting perhaps you'd have killed him before he killed himself. Even professionals (cops) get surprised and killed. Properly trained people can and do make a difference -- a cop (well trained and off duty, perhaps like you?) helped to minimize a rampage at Tacoma Mall a few months ago, saving who knows how many lives in the process. For most people, however (with today's laws and no training), buying a gun actually increases their chances of getting shot or killed (or their kid). That's what I want to reduce, and this psycho and the Michigan one getting weapons so easily. I wouldn't mind waiting for a handgun or rifle, and being required to take a training class, for the simple reason that I want others to do so and so that I am safer from them. I also don't want my own life haunted because I accidentally killed some mother of four.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (76225)	4/18/2007 2:45:40 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Your "gun control" people denied him a permit because he had a history of mental instability so he just bought a rifle and used that instead. You do understand that the reason he could so easily buy a rifle on the street is because there are so many guns due to lax gun laws. Gun control people want less guns, in general. Right now whatever little gun control we have, and there is VERY LITTLE, does nothing to alleviate the huge mass of firearms that flood the country through gun shows and other BS that has no control whatsoever. This argument comes down to stopping the problem at the source by issuing far fewer guns vs the pro gun people who think everybody should be armed due to the zillions of guns on the open market that exist today. I am not interested in being armed. I don't want to arm my family or my kids. I don't like the fact that teenage boys can get guns. In texas where teenage boys carry guns, literally every bar has armed guards to walk the women home at night lest they are raped by some horny armed teenager. its just common sense to put a lid on this.