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To: stockman_scott who wrote (227733)4/18/2007 6:49:29 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 281500
 
This one hits the news of course but there are plenty of other nasty little bits of crappola committed by unhappy people all day, everyday. People moan about this tragedy but ignore the carnage in Iraq while Dubya continues to go on vacation.

Sociopathy comes in many guises and many of those guises are nice, expensive suits. For every person who goes on a shooting rampage, there are thousands who cheat, steal and act like Enron destroying scads of families along the way.

The rightwing tilt of the USA has truly coarsened the culture. It's so twisted.



To: stockman_scott who wrote (227733)4/18/2007 9:25:33 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Virginia Tech Massacre: Social Roots Of Another American Tragedy

Interesting, and perhaps inevitable, that an event which is a complete anomaly in the US, draws the kinds of conclusions and attention which enormous massacres which happen every bloody day in Iraq thanks to suicide bombers do not.

One hundred eighty some odd innocent men women and children killed today in Iraq by suicide bombers, umpty ump yesterday, a hundred plus the day before.........yawn. But let's make sure we slam the 'mericuns for an incident the likes of which happens once every couple of decades here but every day in Iraq and elsewhere in the ME.

Hey, shouldn't we be given a pass for this kind of stuff? Shouldn't we be allowed to stone and behead just a little bit without being criticized for being uncivilized savages?

Where's the justice in this? I mean, they get to kill, maim, massacre, behead, stone, hack off limbs, abuse their spouses, ram jets into buildings, etc., all with impunity and religious sanction to boot, yet we can't let some innocent college kid have a bit of harmless fun?




To: stockman_scott who wrote (227733)4/18/2007 9:58:36 PM
From: coug  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi scott,

I only wish we could have a rational ,national debate about violence in our country and the root causes, if there is. I think so but many don't..

I remember posting after the Columbine incident about how I felt that our culture was wrapped up in the mindset that only violence solves violence. From an individual to national, to an international level.. Arm yourself to the hilt, arm your country to the hilt at the expense of everything else. It permeates the culture, movies, games, etc.. Our real life, capital punishment, fighting, war, etc.. If "daddy government" solves their grievances through violence, why shouldn't I?

Violence begets violence..

All grievances, IMO, can be solved through dialogue, talking, listening, if ALL really WANT to..

So the "violence way" can create an "arms race" at all levels.. Is that a society one wants to live in? I don't.. I want to live in a civil society. Isn't that the root word for "civilization"..

On a "band aid" note, I do not think the NBC should continually show those Ninja-type photos of that guy, it will only create more copycats, like this guy, as he referenced the Columbine guys.. But I think, they think, this sensationalism sells viewership and therefore advertising..

m