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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 3:26:00 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 90947
 
"Keep in mind, they are stocking their country with some of the newest and more efficient technologies."

1930 coal fired power plants, dumping raw sewage into their rivers, millions of gallons of fuel dumped into rivers ????

Man I would hate to see the old tech they were using



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 3:28:50 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 90947
 
oopies

China Apologizes To Russia Over Toxic Benzene Spill

Local residents collect water on the outskirt of the Siberian town of Khabarovsk, 27 November 2005. China has apologized to Russia over a toxic belt of benzene flowing down river toward Siberia and has pledged to inform its neighbor of pollution levels, state press said. Russia has expressed fears that the contaminated water would soon flow into the Amur river, which forms the border between the two countries, but authorities said there would be plenty of advance notice and plenty of fresh water on hand when the poison slick arrived. AFP photo by Yuri Tutov.

Beijing (AFP) Nov 27, 2005
China has apologized to Russia over a toxic belt of benzene flowing down river toward Siberia and has pledged to inform its neighbor of pollution levels, state press said Sunday.

Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing informed Russian ambassador Sergei Razov about the pollution situation along the Songhua river in northeastern Heilongjiang province and expressed regret over any damage that may be done when the toxic slick enters Russia, Xinhua news agency said.

"On behalf of the Chinese government, I express regret over the possible harms to be done to the Russian people by the major environmental pollution accident," Li was quoted as telling Razov on Saturday.

"China fully understands and attaches great importance to the concerns of the Russian side."

The environmental disaster began when some 100 tons of benzene was dumped into the river after a huge explosion at a chemical plant on November 13 in Jilin province, nearly 1,000 kilometers (600 miles) up river from China's border with Russia.

The calamity has been widely seen as a reflection of China's dismal environmental situation, which has been largely ignored during 25 years of fast-paced economic growth.

The disaster resulted in authorities cutting off public water supplies to

3. 8 million residents of Harbin city. Those taps were opened again Sunday however and residents were due to receiving running water the same day.

Russia has shipped extra stocks of purified water to the eastern city of Khabarovsk which lies downstream from the toxic spill and taken steps to avert public health problems for people living in the region, but officials said Sunday that tests showed the water supply was so far unaffected.

Oleg Mitvol, an official with the Khabarovsk regional emergency situations department, said tests showed no increase in river water toxin levels while the city's water purification facilities were functioning normally, Interfax news agency reported.

A rush on purchases of bottled drinking water had subsided and the city was awaiting delivery expected Monday of a supplementary 20 tons of charcoal for use in water treatment plants in the area, he said.

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Harbin Residents Get Water Back After Toxic Spill
Harbin, China(AFP) Nov 25, 2005
Authorities in the Chinese city of Harbin restored running water to its 3.8 million residents Sunday, five days after supplies were cut off due to a massive toxic spill in the city's river, state media said.




To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 3:29:42 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 90947
 
Another oopies, seems like the new tech. is to hard to handle.

Huangpu River Fuel Spill Contained
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A mistake by staff at the Zhabei Power Plant on Monday night led to the release of 45 tons of fuel into the Huangpu River, authorities said yesterday.



The Shanghai Maritime Safety Administration said the pollution was contained yesterday morning.



According to the administration, the spill occurred at about 9 PM on Monday at a dock of the Zhabei Power Plant.



Maritime safety workers launch a cleanup operation yesterday after a mistake at Zhabei Power Plant let 45 tons of fuel spill into the Huangpu River. Authorities said the spill was under control.



The accident was blamed on operators who failed to cut off fuel to a tanker ship once its storage tanks were full.



Maritime authorities said they called in 14 cleanup ships to handle the emergency.

Three nearby tap water factories along the river - the Wusong, Zhabei, and Lingqiao tap-water mills - were told to supervise water sources after the accident and keep watch for possible contamination.



Cleanup vessels were still cruising the river yesterday, and authorities explained the vessels will now focus on floating waste at a nearby dock.



They said it would take some time to fully remove the oil and waste.



(Shanghai Daily April 11, 2007)



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 3:30:57 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 90947
 
Dang, it happened again.

China To Spend Over 1Bn Dollars Cleaning Up Songhua River

Chinese water authorities take samples of the Songhua River. Photo courtesy of AFP.
by Staff Writers
Beijing (AFP) Mar 31, 2006
China said Thursday it would spend 1.2 billion dollars cleaning up its third biggest river following a major chemical spill last year that contaminated water supplies for millions of people.

The State Council, or cabinet, on Wednesday approved the plan to invest 10 billion yuan (1.2 billion dollars) over five years cleaning up the Songhua river in the industrial northeast of the country, the State Environmental Protection Administration said.

"The plan is to solve the pollution problem in the drainage area of the river," the administration said in a statement on its website.

The decision to clean up the 1,897-kilometer (1,172-mile) river comes after an explosion on November 13 last year at a PetroChina chemical factory in Jilin province.

The accident led to the spillage of 100 tonnes of the carcinogens benzene and nitrobenzene into the river, a tributary of the Heilong river which in turn flows into major waterways in Russia's far east.

The chemical spill led to water supplies being suspended for days for millions of people living along the Songhua, including in Harbin, the capital of Heilongjiang province.

In Russia, there were fears that the water and fish supplies for more than 600,000 people in the far eastern region of Khabarovsk had been contaminated.

Although Chinese authorities insisted the impact of the chemical spill dissipated shortly after the slick passed through the river, environmentalists have expressed concerns about the potential long-term damage.

The PetroChina spill was just the highest-profile accident along the Songhua, with the river and its surrounding environment suffering for decades from heavy industrial pollution.

The cities along the Songhua have historically been part of China's industrial heartland, even before the People's Republic was established in 1949.

Heavy industry, including chemical factories, coal mines and manufacturing factories, continues to operate in the area.

The State Council said preventing and controlling pollution in the industrial northeast had been elevated into the 11th five-year plan for national economic and social development.

"Doing the job well is of great significance to reinvigorating the old industrial base of northeast China, boosting coordinated economic and social development and improving people's lives," the administration said.

"Priority shall go to treatment and protection of collective sources of drinking water in large and medium-sized cities to ensure safety of drinking water and water quality of the China-Russia border river."

Water pollution is an enormous problem across China, not just along the Songhua.

More than 70 percent of its rivers and lakes are polluted, while underground water supplies in 90 percent of Chinese cities are contaminated, according to previous government reports.

Source: Agence France-Presse



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 3:34:12 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
Now cut that out, how many spills does it take to make a liberal say uncle to China ??

Serious Oil Spill Reported on Huangpu River
An unidentified small boat hit a cargo ship which moored in the Huangpu River near the Wujing Power Plant early Tuesday morning, damaging the ship's cabin and causing 85 tons of fuel to spill into the river.

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An unidentified small boat hit a cargo ship which moored in the Huangpu River near the Wujing Power Plant early Tuesday morning, damaging the ship's cabin and causing 85 tons of fuel to spill into the river.

The small boat, deemed to be at fault, disappeared under cover of darkness shortly after the accident.

The Shanghai Maritime Affairs Administration was informed about4 a.m. Tuesday of the accident, which left an oil slick 200 meterslong by 20 meters wide.

A total of 17 vessels have been dispatched to the site of the oil spill. About 20 tons of oil-bearing water has been collected and the oil spill has been kept to a restricted area.

But some of the spilled oil has been carried to the riverside, and several plots of wetland at the upper reaches of the river have already been polluted.

"It will take about two weeks to fully clear away the oil," said an expert from the administration.

The Huangpu River flows eastward through the heart of Shanghai,China's most important industrial and commercial center, and empties into the East China Sea.



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 4:13:25 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 90947
 
Food safety worries mount
Does melamine hurt humans? Why isn't food supply protected?

By Stephen J. Hedges and Mary Ann Fergus
Tribune staff reporters
Published April 29, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The tainted pet food scare, which has swelled into a serious crisis for animal lovers, now has spread to humans.

California officials have revealed that the contamination got into the food chain: About 45 state residents ate pork from hogs that consumed animal feed laced with melamine from China. Melamine is used to make plastics, but it also artificially boosts the protein level—and thus the price—of the glutens that go into food.

It was already fatal for some pets: 17 cats and dogs are confirmed dead, more have likely died without being reported, thousands have suffered kidney problems, and 57 brands of cat food and 83 of dog food have been recalled. On top of that, roughly 6,000 hogs will be destroyed because they ate tainted feed.

The effects of melamine on people are thought to be minimal, but no one really knows. Its consumption by humans is considered so improbable that no one has even studied it.

But they are studying now. What last month was a limited recall of canned pet food is on the verge of becoming a full-fledged public health scare, potentially overwhelming government agencies and raising troubling questions about U.S. food safety in the global economy and in the post-Sept. 11 era.

The Food and Drug Administration, criticized by some in Congress for responding too slowly, is struggling to catch up with the implications of the spread of melamine-contaminated glutens from China to hogs, and the human food chain. The FDA is still trying to get its investigators into China, where a skeptical government only last week assented to investigators' visa requests.

At a time when food imports are growing, and only 1 percent to 2 percent of food imports receive any government scrutiny, critics say the scare reveals the shortcomings of a weakened food safety bureaucracy, the inadequacy of existing regulations and the inability of the FDA, which has suffered significant cutbacks, to protect the food supply.

"They're reactive, not proactive," said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), whose House subcommittee on investigations last week held a hearing on food safety. If the problem was imported pet food additives, he asked, "How does it then get to hogs? They've known about this for some time. What did they do with it?"

In a statement, the FDA said that "food safety funding" for the year ending last Sept. 30 "was $376 million." But funding for the agency's Center for Food Safety has dropped from $48 million in 2003 to about to $30 million in 2006, according to the center's 2006 budget priority statement. Full-time jobs in the Center for Food Safety have also been cut from 950 in 2003 to about 820 in 2006, according to the budget statement.

FDA looking for origins
The FDA's real detective work may be just beginning. Having found many sources of contamination, investigators must now determine exactly how widespread the problem is and how it began.

The importer of the bad wheat gluten, ChemNutra Inc. of Las Vegas, contends that its Chinese manufacturer, Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Co., illicitly added melamine to the gluten in order to boost the measurable protein level and thus the price of the shipment. If so, the FDA may find itself pursuing criminal charges against the Chinese company.

FDA officials Friday searched ChemNutra's offices, as well as a pet food plant operated by Menu Foods in Emporia, Kan., according to The Associated Press. Menu Foods has recalled millions of cans of pet food in recent weeks.

In China, the central government has been defensive about charges that an export shipment had been deliberately contaminated, at first denying that any tainted wheat gluten was even shipped to the U.S. But that tone has softened as the extent of the pet food recall expanded. On Friday, a government spokesman told USA Today that some shipments were contaminated.

Scores of pet food brands have now been recalled in the U.S. for fear that melamine-contaminated glutens were used in their manufacture. They include canned and dry dog food and dog biscuits that are made in places as widely scattered as Utah, Missouri and South Carolina.

The FDA is also examining imported vegetable proteins earmarked for human products like pizza, protein bars and baby formula. That investigation, still in its early stages, hasn't uncovered any contaminated ingredients, but the agency, an FDA doctor said, wanted to "get ahead of the curve."

The melamine-laced food reached hogs because surplus pet food—crumbled and broken food bits rejected as unsuitable for dogs or cats—was sent to hog farms and turned into feed. The FDA says bulk shipments of feed were delivered to hog farmers in California, Utah, Ohio, Kansas, Oklahoma, New York, North Carolina and South Carolina. FDA officials said they were also concerned that contaminated livestock feed may have been shipped to Missouri.

"It's absolutely a terrible nightmare story," said Eric Nelson, a Wisconsin feed specialist and president of the Association of American Feed Control Officials. "It just doesn't seem to get any better, and I'm sure it's not over."

Rice protein also a problem
Even as the tainted wheat gluten cases have multiplied, the FDA has learned of another problem: Chinese rice protein. U.S. importer Wilbur-Ellis told the agency that a single bag of rice protein that it had imported tested positive for the presence of melamine. Wilbur-Ellis imported the rice from Binzhou Futian Biology Technology Co. in China's Shandong province. In the U.S., the protein went to five U.S. pet food makers in Utah, New York, Kansas and Missouri.

While the FDA has targeted select states for hog inspections, the pet food recall and the large number of sick cats and dogs have overwhelmed state agencies that often only investigate a dozen pet food complaints a year. The FDA says about 400 employees across the country are collecting pet food samples, monitoring the recalls' effectiveness and preparing complaints.

The investigation's progress in Illinois alone illustrates the problem.

About half of the 32 FDA investigators in the state have worked on responding to more than 500 complaints of sick or deceased dogs and cats since the recalls began March 16. They must collect medical records from veterinarians and gather samples of contaminated pet food.

The office is also involved in recall effectiveness. "It's very taxing on our resources," said Scott MacIntire, director of the FDA's Chicago office, which oversees state operations.

MacIntire said his office is investigating a shipment of rice protein concentrate imported to Illinois and potentially used in a human product.

Nationwide, the FDA has only enough inspectors to check 1 percent to 2 percent of the 8.9 million imported food shipments in 2006.

"We don't have the resources or the capabilities to test every single shipment of every single food item that crosses into our country or into our state borders," said Frank Busta, director of the National Center for Food Protection and Defense.

Stupak is among a small number in Congress who for several years have pressed for stiffer food safety regulations. He said legislation likely to pass this year could include a provision giving the FDA authority to order food processors to recall questionable items.

Currently, the FDA can issue mandatory recall orders only for baby formula, while other government safety agencies can demand the recall of goods such as unsafe toys and tires.

"It took Menu Foods almost a whole month to do a full recall of the dog food," Stupak said. "If they're dragging their feet on the recall of dog food, in the meantime this tainted wheat gluten is going to hogs."

Other fixes could include expanded funding for food safety inspections and labs, the right to conduct spot inspections, subpoena power for the FDA and country-of-origin labeling on food products. Congress has already passed the labeling law, but the Bush administration has declined to implement it, citing cost concerns.

FDA officials acknowledged that they are closing seven labs but said they are older facilities that needed renovation and that other labs are being expanded to compensate.

What price safety?
The end of this pet food crisis appears more elusive than ever, shedding light on issues beyond the largely self-regulated pet food industry to America's growing dependence on cheap imported ingredients from China and other countries, where safety precautions may be more lenient.

But just as troubling, federal officials and congressional critics of the FDA say, is the ease with which the bad gluten was passed along once in the U.S. After the Sept. 11 attacks, food and water safety were an issue of great concern, they say, but those concerns seem to have eroded.

America's increasing reliance on low-cost food creates a complicated food distribution system, Busta said — and that leaves "many potential vulnerabilities."

shedges@tribune.com

mfergus@tribune.com

Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 4:15:07 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
illicitly added melamine to the gluten in order to boost the measurable protein level and thus the price of the shipment

oh those wonderful Chinese and the things they do with their new efficient technologies



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (58798)4/29/2007 6:44:06 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947
 
What comes across to me from you Lazarus, is that you are not an optimist and have a dim view of humanity's ability to right itself.
What comes across from you len, is that your eyesight is dim and you can't see reality. It's a disease caused by liberalism.

I am very optimistic, and believe with the proper focus and application, we will lessen our effects on the earth.

China and India will come around. They are in a hypergrowth phase right now.

I will agree with that. Estimates are for 9.2 billion in 2050. About half a lifetime out.
How you going to even feed them, much less give them a decent standard of living? This would be a problem even if we DON'T accept the perverted artificial inefficiencies of going green. And YOU STILL HAVEN'T TOLD ME why the biggest producer of greenhouse gases (China) got a a total pass in the Kyoto Treaty. And how to make "green" electronic chips.

Keep in mind, they are stocking their country with some of the newest and more efficient technologies.
Like the ones longnshort's posts cite? If you have him on ignore, you'd better take him off. You are doing no better here than on all the other questions I put to you that I never got answers to.

The mining industry has held sway over our government since the 1800s.
You got a better way of getting minerals. And I can't imagine a more incorrect statement than the one you made, anyway.

I assume you're trying to imply their enormous economic sway allows them to dictate to Congress and the President.
bea.gov
As you can see, they account for about 1% - 2% of GNP. Some sway.

This is slowly changing. They cannot do their thing and walk away leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill for the clean up.
Here's your "contributors", lennie:
epw.senate.gov
BTW, YOU, whether you like or not, are going to pay. As that old saying has it, corporations don't pay taxes, they collect them. If they see that tax expense coming (these poor suckers apparently got blinsided), they will increase prices to fund the eventual payment. And get the money from YOU.

Lazarus, it is time for you to rise from the dead.
len, it is time for you to wake up and smell the cordite smoke.