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To: michael97123 who wrote (229087)	4/30/2007 11:33:58 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<As long as cheney is there, i fear that nothing will change> Bingo -- that has been the central fact from day one.

To: michael97123 who wrote (229087)	4/30/2007 11:45:51 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Micheal, if we leave without further decimating the Sunnis ability to protect themselves from the Shiites then the "Iraqis" will partition themselves. Either with violence or out of a fear of violence. The Kurds have already done so. If it wasn't for the threat of Turkey and their need for U.S. protection they'd have told us and the other "Iraqis" to go to hell long ago and declared their independence. We don't, as you write, "have a war to win with the islamists." The "Islamists" have a war to fight among themselves. It's not our war. When we get out of it they'll battle it out, try different paths, suffer and, eventually, find a better path. In the interim they'll largely leave us alone because local issues soon overtake global issues. Right now we're the "local" issue. That has to change. Western Europe has its own problems and western Europe may have a long, difficult time in solving them. Like Iraq, however, it's their problem and only they can solve it. None of those issues rise to the level of "imminent" threats to the US. If they do then we'll act. In the interim our acts only interfere in ways that are more likely, long term, to make things worse rather than better. Here's the primary foreign policy that will best serve America's interests: "DO NO HARM." Ed