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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/2/2007 11:47:30 PM
From: ItsAllCyclical  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50126
 
Probably your best post in the past few years. (eom)



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/3/2007 12:09:04 AM
From: smh  Respond to of 50126
 
Thanks Slidey,

That was the clearest, most direct, riddle free post of an important point that I can remember coming from you.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/3/2007 9:31:12 AM
From: onginvester  Respond to of 50126
 
"speculators rushed for the exits amidst the Russian debt default"

that was the catalyst then, we have yet to identify a catalyst for 2007 or 08. Event driven is the only thing I see driving the specs out of a global melt up in equities.

year out yen calls and gold puts might be worth tucking under the pillow.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/3/2007 10:55:56 AM
From: ecrire  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50126
 
The problem is the timing. The Yen "carry trade" is alive and well; the Yen continues to weaken and the dollar is stronger. The Japanese have a conundrum: to protect their export trade or withdraw liquidity and raising interest rates. So current market action does not support any imminent change in policy.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/3/2007 12:14:50 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 50126
 
From: MoneyPenny 5/3/2007 8:40:45 AM
3 Recommendations of 76989

Michael Farrell, Chairman of Annaly, delivered opening remarks to the company’s

2007 first quarter earnings call. We reprint those remarks below:

The New Dust Bowl

In John Steinbeck’s time, The Grapes of Wrath had a special meaning. It is a novel about the destruction of a

way of life in the farming communities throughout Agricultural America in the 1930s, a condition created by an unprecedented

drought, which followed an unprecedented boom for farm land, real estate, from favorable financial and

environmental elements.

In reading the recent headlines about the distress in the mortgage market, it is easy to relate the events and

circumstances of the two time periods. But we don’t have to go so far back in history to understand the effects of setbacks

in real estate valuation and lending standards to try to piece together the near term outlook for monetary policy.

In 1991, the dollar weighted value of US Gross Domestic Product was about $7 trillion. During this time

frame, the US experienced a real estate recession that was estimated to cost about $300 billion in losses. This event led

to the creation of a special government agency, The Resolution Trust Corporation, and very nearly brought several

money center banks throughout the country to their collective knees. The weight of this repricing of values and the

clearance of these inventories leaned on US economic growth for three years, and during this period we experienced a

very steep yield curve of about 400 basis points. It was during this era that Sam Zell accumulated the portfolio of properties

that became the centerpieces of Equity Office Properties.

A key factor leading to these problems was the dilution of underwriting standards caused by deregulation of

the Savings and Loan industry during the late 1980s. As the pocketbooks of government-insured deposits at the thrifts

were set loose on the real estate and high yield markets, riskier and riskier assets were underwritten and acquired to

attain higher and higher rates of return. This drive of innovations in finance to satisfy the need for higher yielding returns

was the blueprint for the eventual bankruptcy of Orange County California in 1994.

Now, flash forward to today. Deregulation, in the form of unregulated lending companies, has once again led

to the dilution of credit underwriting standards and this time it has been compounded at least three times over in the

financially reengineered capital markets. Today’s economy is about $11 trillion in weighted GDP dollars, or about 61%

bigger than 1991’s economy, according to the BEA. The sub-prime mortgage sector’s estimated size is approximately

15% of the entire $10 trillion residential mortgage market. If the current underwriting problems are only contained to

about 25% of all of these loans, as many people believe, then the estimated size of the problem is approximately $375

billion dollars in size or at least 25% bigger than 1991’s problem. So the economy is bigger, but so is the problem,

even assuming it is confined to just 25% of the $1.5 trillion of sub-prime underwritings. For what it’s worth, we think

the problem is bigger than 25%. $50 billion in market capitalization has already been lost and very few if any debt

downgrades have taken place.

This leads to the debate about risk sharing and how far will the Fed go in order to cure the problem. If 1990-92

is an example, they took Fed Funds down from about 8.5% to 3% and left it there for at least two years, a decline of

about 65%. In today’s terms, the same percentage decline would bring the Fed Funds rate from 5.25% to about 2%. The

ten year yield remained sticky during that period and basically went to about 7% from 8.5%. Today, that might imply a

ten year rate of 4% or so.

To some, the shape of that yield curve may appear to be enough to help repair the damage created by the bubble-

like conditions of the debt and derivatives market over the past six years. I would submit that this will not be the

relatively quick three or four year fix that characterized the real estate recovery of the early 1990s. I think it is important

to reflect instead on the Japanese experience of the last 20 years. Here, we see that the effects of a widespread

valuation problem in real estate spilled over into the equity markets and subsequently into the debt markets. The reaction

of the Bank of Japan was to lower interest rates in a futile, ‘pushing on a string’ attempt to stimulate domestic demand

and cure the banking system. This is an island empire that is 146,000 square miles in size-slightly smaller than

the state of California. The United States is 3,537,000 square miles in contrast. With all of the risk parameters now

being reinstated into the mortgage underwriting arena, it should be clear that the markets are now doing the heavy lifting

for the Federal Reserve. Risk premiums will stay wide for some time to come as the markets attempt to get their

arms around the problem. The Fed’s attempts to restart the growth engine will not have the same effect as last time; it

will take longer and the damage will be wider than either the RTC mop-up in 1991 or the tech bubble bust in 2000.

There is a great amount of discussion about how the ‘real economy’ is not being affected by the significant

challenges in the energy market, the housing sector, the global war on terrorism and the myriad other micro and macro

problems that exist in this vast $11 trillion economy. I think this is nonsense. There isn’t a more widely-held asset class

for Americans than housing.. We have almost 70% home ownership in this country; Germany, by contrast, has 43%.

There is a daisy chain of job creation linked to housing that represents jobs that cannot be outsourced to any other country:

Architects, realtors, builders, masons, plumbers, carpenters, lawyers, title searchers, lawn maintenance crews, financiers,

just to name a few. This is a reflection of the real economy across the US, not just the manufacturing sector

being hollowed out in the mid-west. To paraphrase 1992 Presidential candidate Ross Perot: “That sucking sound you

hear is jobs being pulled away from the US via trade agreements and retrenchment in the financial services sector.”

John Steinbeck’s final metaphor in the Grapes of Wrath is the image of the migrant farmer’s prayers being

answered as rain finally relieves the drought condition. As the novel comes to a close, however, they are building a

platform on top of their dilapidated car to save themselves from the subsequent flood that is spilling over from the river.

Ben Bernanke has already identified the foreclosure problem as a “tidal wave” ready to happen. It is just beginning to

happen, and at a time when employment has been statistically characterized as healthy. This should be a point of concern

for the capital markets. Another Fed official has described the unoccupied housing developments across the country

as “the new ghost towns”. One difference is that our generation will be building our rafts on top of imported cars,

not Fords. When you add it all up, it sounds a lot like the “new dust bowl’ to me. I think Tom Joad would agree.

May 2, 2007

Michael A.J. Farrell

Chairman, CEO and President of Annaly Capital Management, Inc.

from NLY website via FAX board on Investors Village. MP



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/3/2007 10:58:06 PM
From: wildandwonderful  Respond to of 50126
 
Eureka.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (5177)5/4/2007 11:07:01 PM
From: Fun-da-Mental#1  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 50126
 
Slider, I don't think this is just speculation. Long-term, the price of gold has to cover the cost of replacing gold mine reserves as they are depleted, and right now it is not doing that. Gold mine output is falling as the gold price rises, an extraordinary situation.

And I don't think the stock market is overvalued either. S&P 500 average PE ratio has fallen from over 40 in 2000 to 16 now. Look at all the buyouts now. The big boys would not be paying billions to take public companies private if they were overvalued. In 2000 we saw all kinds of IPOs. Now we are seeing buyouts and buybacks instead - quite a difference!

The money supply is increasing and the supply of stocks is shrinking, so stock valuations should increase.

Fun-da-Mental