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To: Sam who wrote (230623)	5/10/2007 1:41:40 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"And, unhappily, there will be plenty of mindless patriots who will believe them." and plenty of leftys with no love for the US who will alienate these folks. The dems got blamed for china because the hard left in the US was caught out there kissing stalins ass. It had little to do with the battlefield. Read geodes posts as opposed to your very reasonable one and you will get a feel for what i am talking about. There are idiots on the left so stupid that you will prefer the company of "mindless patriots".

To: Sam who wrote (230623)	5/10/2007 2:44:24 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Respond to of 281500

Sam, re: And, unhappily, there will be plenty of mindless patriots who will believe them. Again and again. Yes, but it will be another generation before the vast middle of America forgets another lesson and tries to project our power, our values and our economic interests on the backs of our soldiers to the other side of the world. And maybe, if we're lucky, it will be much longer than that before the leaders of one of our political parties risks taking their party over the edge of a cliff. I think that's where the Republican party is headed in the next election. I hope so. There need to be consequences for the horrible decisions made regarding Iraq and they need to be drastic enough so that future people in power will remember. I'd like to see the full weight of those consequences fall on the members of congress who rubber stamped the decisions. I'd also like to see them fall on those who refused to stand up and be counted in opposition. So in a perfect world there'd be no Hillary or Biden as president and the "ardently support the war" assholes would be thrown out. Of course that's probably too much to ask, but one can dream. Ed