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To: TimF who wrote (337242)5/12/2007 11:33:45 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575328
 
Just substitute "Bush" for FDR.

"There are some distant similarities, between FDR and Hitler, but focusing on them distorts things because the difference are far larger and more important. You can find things that are similar with Hitler and a lot of people, but using them to imply that person X and Hitler are the same or almost the same, usually is neither accurate nor reasonable.


The point isn't whether Bush and Hitler are twins.....we know they are not. The point is that Bush has moved to strengthen the executive branch at the expense of Congress. And that's what Hitler did on his rise to power. There are many people including myself who question whether Bush/Cheney believe in the Constitution. Its a real fear and your going through this elaborate explanation as to how Hitler and Bush are different does nothing to assuage that fear.

Also comparing FDR to Hitler, distracts people from arguments about actual problems with FDR. When you exaggerate so much in making criticisms, you cause some people who otherwise would have read/listened to your message to tune you out. You give people who would have debated the issue, and easier way to attack your argument, and you make some people who would have been on your side if you where making more reasonable criticism, instead argue against you."

Actually, talking about comparisons between Bush and Hitler brought to the surface some important issues that needed discussing.......was Bush telling the truth about Iraq; why is he frequently using signing papers when approving legislation; does his good ole boy demeanor mask someone considerably more evil; why are Bush/Cheney pushing so hard to strengthen the presidency; are they planning to attack Iran, etc.

As for trying to pack crowds with supporters, sure Hitler probably did that, and Bush does as well, but then politicans of all stripes do that. Using that to imply some significant similarity between Bush and Hitler is like using the fact that they both wore shoes to say that they are the same.

Tim, I have never seen the kind of screening in this country that Bush does when he speaks. Obama speaks to a rally of people in a town square in Illinois. Bush speaks consistently at semi private gatherings where the people are screened very closely. Is he the president of all the people, or just the ones who voted for him?

Do you think this is the behavior of a president who believes in democracy?

Yes he was democratically elected. Democracy, doesn't imply that a politician automatically chucks and policy when it becomes unpopular. Bush apparently believes in democracy with the "selection model" more than the "incentive model". See
Message 23534289;

Tim, I think you are in denial.