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To: CapitalistHogg™ who wrote (84521)	5/15/2007 9:32:06 AM
From: ChanceIs	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206176

>>>It blows my tiny little brain that these discussions still persist to this day...i just do not f'g get it.<<< There is no doubt that the polar ice is receding or that the CO2 levels are higher than when James Watt first invented the steam engine. I question the cause and effect linkage. It is all computer modeling and simulation. Leave out a variable - say normal cloud cover over the Azores in December, and the whole thing could be out of whack. You know....a butterfly bets its winds in China and an earthquake happens in Peru. I spew out CO2 with every breath. It isn't a pollutant. Hubbert's Peak will take care of CO2 emissions - at least on the liquid hydrocarbon side. I read occasionally about peak coal. Nobody is going to do anything about the CO2 already in the atmosphere. Sincere skepticism should always be welcome in science. Look at it this way. People fear global warming because of floods, famine, disease and economic collapse. I can't guarantee that if you cut carbon usage 20% tomorrow, that you will get floods, but the other three are a lock.

To: CapitalistHogg™ who wrote (84521)	5/15/2007 10:36:25 AM
From: Salt'n'Peppa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206176

Pollution and global warming are two separate (but related) issues. Chancels is right in that every mammal on the planet spews out copious amounts of CO2 every day. Cows fart a humongous amount of methane daily. One good sized volcanic eruption spews more pollutant into the air than mankind does in several years. {{{who cares? i don't need "proof" that if i shit where i sleep i'm going to smell something that stinks!}}} You should care. If we severely handicap global economies in the face of "lack of proof" of anthropic cause of GW, you will not have a pot to pi$$ in or a bed to sleep in. Everyone knows that green plants and algae absorb CO2 and emit O2. Few people know that oceans, seas and lakes (2/3 of the Earth's surface) lock up massive quantities of CO2 during the formation of limestone. IMO, deforestation and desertification are more scary than CO2 emissions. They are a part of the other side of the same equation. ...and FWIW, CO2 does not stink. S&P

To: CapitalistHogg™ who wrote (84521)	5/15/2007 5:06:04 PM
From: James W. Riley	Respond to of 206176

MR. STREETSMART, MY BIG CONCERN IS GLOBAL WORMING. DO YOU REALIZE THAT EARTHWORMS HAVE BOTH MALE AND FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS? THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 981,235,350,258,656.5 EARTHWORMS ON THE PLANET. THEY LAY EGGS AT ONE MONTH INTERVALS CONTAINING 5 TO 15 BABY WORMS. AT THIS RATE THERE WILL BE OVER A GAZILLION WORMS IN A MATTER OF 10 TO 50 YEARS, ENOUGH TO DEVOUR THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EAT EVERYTHING IN THEIR PATHS. FOR YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN DIRE WARNINGS OF FATAL CONSEQUENCES. SOME SAY THE SIGNS ARE HERE NOW WITH HURRICANE KATRINA AND OTHER RECENT NATURAL DISASTERS. ALTHOUGH GEORGE W. BUSH DID HIS BEST TO SILENCE THE MEDIA, THE REAL TRUTH IS, AND YES YOU GUESSED IT....EARTHWORMS ERODED THE LEVEES. THERE IS NO DEBATE WHEN IT COMES TO GLOBAL WORMING... THE CONSENSUS FROM AUTOMOBILE AND FOOD-ADDITIVE ENGINEERS FROM OVER 192 COUNTRIES IS THAT GLOBAL WORMING IS REAL AND WE MUST ACT NOW TO REVERSE THE NO. 1 PROBLEM THIS PLANET FACES FOR NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE. IT IS TIME FOR US TO CRAWL TO THE OCCASION.

To: CapitalistHogg™ who wrote (84521)	5/15/2007 6:02:08 PM
From: gregor_us	Respond to of 206176

From my December Blog Entry on Coal: Meanwhile, the soaring use of coal in Asia has huge implications for CO2 emissions, obviously. Personally, I'm uncomfortable with the phrase Global Warming, because I think it gives a potentially false signal and false assurance that the inevitable outcome to CO2 emissions will be warming. Actually, the earth has some corrective mechanisms such that this upswing in CO2 output could have just the opposite effect. Global cooling also has nasty implications. Let's put the jargon aside however and agree that The CO2 Problem (my preferred term) has long since arrived, and it matters. Elizabeth Kolbert has done some excellent reporting on the issue in a series of articles in The New Yorker, and the most recent, on the acidification of the world's oceans, is eye opening. gregor.us Gregor