To: sea_urchin who wrote (15161 ) 6/7/2007 10:37:39 PM From: Cyprian Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250 The idea of a Creator is simply a myth and superstition used to control and manipulate the unknowing and the unsuspecting. Interesting that you would say this, considering how you by your own admission are unable to tell us what "drives" evolution. Why does anything need to drive evolution? I thought it was all the product of vast amounts of time plus chance? When you admit that something must drive evolution, you are admitting that there must be some sort of Designer. It simply can't happen all by itself. This is why you have many people in the scientific community who have grown weary of looking like fools with their fish-story Theory of Evolution now getting on board the "Intelligent Design" bandwagon.The Creator was invented 4000 years ago and the business around him/her/it is still going strong. In fact, it's the best business in town. Who was this who invented an idea of the Creator 4,000 years ago? If you are so confident that you know his/her/their name(s), by all means do share. > In other words order arose from disorder by time and chance.I agree, that is ridiculous and I am aware of no acceptable explanation for it. Ok, so it appears that you are not an Evolutionist after all, but an opportunist. In other words you will believe in ANYTHING but the idea of a Creator. When push comes to shove you admit that the theory of Evolution is chock full of holes. But you don't want to face the alternative, a Creator who created you, because then you would have to be accountable to the Creator. And since you are a secular-humanist you place MAN above GOD. You are your own god. After all you get to make up the rules to suit yourself when you are god. If you were to acknowledge God as your Maker, then that might open up a whole realm of possibilities, such as expectations that God has for you.