To: TimF who wrote (337711 ) 5/17/2007 2:14:16 AM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574577 <and if it was a lie, it didn't have anything to do with me. Of course it had something to do with you.......you voted for him not once but twice I had nothing to do with any lie. If there was any lie about Iraq, I didn't make it. By 2004, it was very clear that Iraq was going south, and that there were no WMDs and no Saddam/al Qaida tie as told by the Bush administration, and yet, you voted for him again. Don't tell me there was no better alternative......anyone who was not lying to the American public was a better alternative than Bush. That includes John Kerry.I voted for him because he was better then the alternatives. If voting for someone makes you morally responsible for everything they do, then I guess I'd better stop voting. (But then you'd like that too much <g>) Normally, I don't call people on their votes but the right has been running on a bad track for some time. Its been living on a steady diet of lies, hyperbole, and misrepresentations that play well on the altar of its ideology. For a long time, you were restricted to your own stream but starting in 2000, that stream overflowed its banks and began to seep into the lives of the rest of us. And its done a lot of damage that can not be ignored. You all need to be held responsible, or your pundits, people like Sowell, Coulter and Hanson, will continue to spew their twisted wrecks of corrupted words, causing more confusion among their readers. Its not one of our better ones that's for damn sure. How do you define a better or worse war? You don't...all war is hell. But Iraq is more hellish than most.The very thing that is happening now is what was predicted back then. A million things where predicted. Some of them failed to happen and never will. Some happened. Some may happen in the future or might not. Not from the group who opposed the war. Their predictions read like Iraq, 2007.would persist in going down the wrong track even as the evidence shows that its a huge mistake. An argument can be made that it was the wrong track to take in the first place, but even if it was that doesn't mean that leaving now is the right track. Why can't you understand? There is no winning this war. The surge has failed. The American presence only adds fuel to the fire. We must withdraw......sooner rather than later.