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To: tejek who wrote (337856)	5/18/2007 1:37:21 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576613

"Were these immigrant groups in this country illegally?" Restrictions on immigration was later. So there was no reason for illegal immigration until the 1920s. "Legal immigrants lived in slums during the turn of the century but most were paying taxes and not sending most of their income back to their country of origin." True. That is a big difference. The immigrants in those days were here for a new start. So that does skew the dynamics. I can understand Z's viewpoint, I held it at one time. Heck, anyone with enough get up and go to travel hundreds or thousands of miles looking for work should be rewarded. But, there can be too much of a good thing. Used to be, you could see a smooth gradient in the wages of the trades like carpentry. The closer you got to Brownsville, the lower the wages. That isn't true any longer, the system has gotten a lot more efficient in moving people around.

To: tejek who wrote (337856)	5/20/2007 2:46:14 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576613

>Is this really analogous? Were these immigrant groups in this country illegally? Were American cities getting inundated with people living ten to a one bedroom? Legal immigrants lived in slums during the turn of the century but most were paying taxes and not sending most of their income back to their country of origin. And don't forget that illegals are violating American law to be here. Well, there was no such thing as an "illegal" immigrant then. We let them come here. >I think its too easy to call it racism when people oppose illegal immigration. It ignores the very real problems created when illegals move to southern and western cities. Whatever problems the illegals cause are going on because the immigrants are living in squalor. If we were to try to integrate them better rather than forcing them to hide and live in ghettos, I think the situation would be a lot better. Maybe I'm naive, but... I'd rather see people treated like people, American or not. >And frankly, if objecting to people who pee on city streets, shoot guns into the air and could care less what happens to their neighborhood is racism, then I am guilty as charged. But crime isn't particularly bad among illegal immigrants, because they have to lie low to avoid deportation. I just don't think that relaxing immigration laws will make that many more people come here than already do. It's not like it's that hard to get here right now. -Z