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To: epicure who wrote (231841)	5/22/2007 1:07:38 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I understand you think all the history books you've read lead you to another conclusion- but given that you also tell me Venice was typical, I hope you will understand I think you are less than credible. Talk about a straw man argument! I never said Venice was "typical." I said that what was true for Venice and Holland - that women were allowed to set foot in public spaces unveiled and speak with men outside their own family - was true for other places as well. Or are you now going to argue that 16th century France and England enclosed women in harems? Women of the west are tainted by Eve's sin by the dominant religion- Christ If women of the West were tainted by Eve's sin, they were also elevated by the Virgin Mary's grace. There is no Islamic equivalent to the Marian devotion or its secular equivalent, chivalry.

To: epicure who wrote (231841)	5/22/2007 1:39:38 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Looks like under sharia law today a husband can divorce his wife without alimony if he finds out she wasn't a virgin when they married. It took this guy 5 days! Published: 22/05/2007 12:00 AM (UAE) Woman tried for accessing ex-husband's private files By Bassam Za'za', Staff Reporter gulfnews.com Dubai: A female employee at Dubai Police is on trial for presenting secret documents about her former husband's criminal record before a Sharia court to win a ruling in her favour. The 32-year-old Arab woman who works as a civil employee in the human resources department told the Dubai Court of First Instance yesterday, "I informed the people in charge that I would photocopy the documents." The Public Prosecution had charged her with revealing secret documents which she photocopied from her husband's military file at the police. She was charged with presenting those documents before the Sharia court to obtain a ruling in her favour. The secret documents contained criminal verdicts against her ex-husband who was earlier convicted of sex-related crimes. The bill of charges said she abused her job and photocopied the documents to use them against her ex-husband. In a statement to public prosecution interrogators, she confessed to her charges. Meanwhile, her compatriot, who was dismissed from the police following his indictment, claimed in his statement, "I divorced her after five days of marriage because I discovered that she lost her virginity before our marriage. "The Sharia court granted me a divorce but didn't approve her right to alimony or maintenance. I was astonished when her lawyer presented those documents before the appeal court which granted her alimony and maintenance." The claimant confirmed that he complained against her to the police which launched an interior investigation and asked him to lodge a criminal complaint against her. The court reconvenes later this month.