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To: Elroy who wrote (37795)5/24/2007 6:53:26 AM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 541816
 
>>The question isn't really fair. There is no "Islamic world", there is an Islamic religion. The question should compare nations (eg, US vs. Egypt), or compare the religions ("Christian world" with the "Islamic world"), since that comparison makes more sense.

The way it is phrased it seems intuitive that the US government (composed mainly of Christians and dedicated to separating religion from civil) law would be seen as opposed to Islam, where sharia law mandates religious behaviour. How could the US not be seens as trying to weaken religious/sharia law - the separation of church and state is part of our constitution.<<

Elroy -

Yes, there is an "Islamic world," comprising many nations with populations that are predominately Muslim, from the Middle East to Indonesia. The people in those nations often identify themselves as Muslim first, and whatever nationality second.

The poll had nothing to do with our Constitution, being concerned with our foreign policy only.

- Allen



To: Elroy who wrote (37795)5/24/2007 11:01:52 AM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 541816
 
Elroy;

There is no "Islamic world", there is an Islamic religion

You are playing with semantics. I wish you had heard the NPR program that I did that talked about people who justify their thinking by lying to themselves. That you are trying to justify this extremely troubling results is EXACTLY what Ron Paul was trying to get across in his confrontation with Rudy.

How could the US not be seens as trying to weaken religious/sharia law - the separation of church and state is part of our constitution

What! You are using this as an example of why the Islamic world might answer the way they did! Elroy, read this again! What about religion in our country? Do you think we are forcing our separation of church and state onto their democracy? If so, that alone would demonstrate how little we understand their culture.

Elroy, we, by our actions, are creating the "hate" by failing to understand their culture and their religion. It is this hate that is fostering a culture of terrorism. (That is a powerful statement and by saying that of course I am not justifying their actions - just trying to find the cause of their hate for us). If we fail to understand that - as the study so clearly showed - we have a very unfortunate future waiting for us - and the world.

steve