To: michael97123 who wrote (844 ) 5/24/2007 10:56:36 AM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4152 Someone else said that then. Sorry. How many jihadists are there in iraq in your opinion? Michael, you have to divide them into two separate groupings.. Indigenous Jihadist movements represented by folks like Ansar Al-Sunnah, and primarily foreign Jihadists represented by Al-Qai'da. When I was there, the number of "foreigners" was always in debate. Some would say hundreds, some would say thousands.. But combined Jihadist minded forces (those attempting to "Talibanize" Iraq, I would definitely lean toward the "thousands" figure. As for foreigners, I would lean toward hundreds. However, the latter have no allegiance to the Iraqi tribal structure, while Ansar Al-Sunnah does have to walk both paths. In fact, this lack of loyalty to Iraqi tribes, as well as AQ's efforts to intimidate the Shaykhs, is the primary motivation for kicking out of Anbar province. And it will eventually prove the same case for Diyala Province, where much of the recent activities have been focused. Thus, so long as AQ foreign cells can rely upon the "ratlines" from outside Iraq to attract "grooms" to commit suicide bombings, they have access to far more resources than the indigenous Jihadist forces. Thus, I believe, this the rationale for attempting to (finally) focus upon motivating "righteous" indignation on the part of the Sunni tribes in Iraq to kick out the foreigners. And one other thing. I'll wager that the reason we're seeing so much activity on the part of AQ in Diyala province is because we've dried up the rat-lines between Syria and Iraq. Diyala province borders Iran, so now the foreigners likely coming through Iran, with the blessing of the Qud's force (who I opine is supporting the Sunni and Shi'a extremists on both sides). Just my hunch. Hawk