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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (959)	5/25/2007 3:55:20 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

"If people vote to subjugate themselves to the sovereignty and dominion of another country, that's their right." First, by definition, what you describe is NOT a democracy. Not even close. Forgetting that, however, what if the only choice of the people was to vote to subjugate themselves? That's what happened. The only choice on the ballot was to select the individuals who would represent them in subjugating themselves to the sovereignty of another country, the question of what kind of government they'd have had already been decided...by fiat. and, subsequently, what if the other country closeted their representatives, limited the ability of those representatives to govern, bought them off with tens and hundreds of millions of dollars of graftable payments and threatened to leave their leaders exposed to the wrath of the people if they didn't "play ball?" Would you call that a democracy? Would you say the invading force was no longer an occupying force? Are you that good at rationalizing that you can find some way to fit that into your necessary belief that Iraq is a democracy, that we owe it to them to stay and "help" them more and that we're welcome there even though the majority of the people support the killing of American soldiers? If you're that good then you ought to run for president. You'd follow Bush seamlessly. Ed