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To: steve harris who wrote (339920)	6/9/2007 12:12:15 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1571928

>The southern states decided to secede from the union after feeling the north had become too powerful in congress. Over slavery. And the North only ruled the gov't for a short time before then -- keep in mind that the Presidents before Lincoln (Buchanan and Pierce) were very proslavery. Does the Ostend Manifesto mean anything to you? >President Lincoln decided they did not have that right to secede. Right. >Yes, one result of the war were the slaves became freedmen. But to say the civil war was started to abolish slavery is wrong. There were slaves in the north, there were black slave owners, even the supreme court would not give Dred Scott his freedom. The Supreme Court wasn't completely northern or abolitionist. Besides, things were quite different in 1859 than they were in 1861. >Also, during his Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln chose not to free the slaves in the north. There may have been a few slaves in the north here and there by the 1860s, but officially, they weren't allowed. Heck, there are drugs all over the US today, but that doesn't mean they're legal. Slavery was officially outlawed in every (I believe) northern state at least a generation before that. -Z

To: steve harris who wrote (339920)	6/9/2007 12:16:19 PM
From: SilentZ	Respond to of 1571928

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To: steve harris who wrote (339920)	6/11/2007 1:12:53 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571928

The southern states decided to secede from the union after feeling the north had become too powerful in congress I thought the Senate was designed to neutralize that issue. Yes, one result of the war were the slaves became freedmen. But to say the civil war was started to abolish slavery is wrong. There were slaves in the north, there were black slave owners, even the supreme court would not give Dred Scott his freedom. Also, during his Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln chose not to free the slaves in the north. So then, if slavery had nothing to do with it, why did Lincoln free the slaves?