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To: John Vosilla who wrote (902)6/21/2007 2:29:57 PM
From: Dale BakerRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 1718
 
When the hot money is running into large caps with PE's under 20, the downside room to "crash and burn" is limited, as long as the underlying business doesn't disintegrate like the homebuilders. That's the chief factor that most SI amateurs don't grasp, or even want to look at.

They want to say housing bust=consumer bust=credit bust=market bust.

The world ain't that simple by a long shot. But anything else would cloud their gleeful scribbling.



To: John Vosilla who wrote (902)6/22/2007 6:56:04 AM
From: RarebirdRespond to of 1718
 
>>Cash flow always rules in the long run.<<

Yes, as long as the company uses the cash wisely to pay dividends, fund more research and development, or acquire other good companies and expand into new markets.

A low PE to growth ratio (PEG) and a low debt to capital ratio are also essential ingredients for a good investment.

Do you know a company that is so dirt cheap, that its growth rate (12%) is almost double its PE, with a great balance sheet, good management, that even most permabears would embrace it because earnings are strong?

Want to invest in a Cash Cow?

Look at ACGL.

Disclosure:

Long the stock.

PS Sometimes you just got to buy the company (Value) and forget about the bigger picture.




To: John Vosilla who wrote (902)6/22/2007 5:45:27 PM
From: SouthFloridaGuyRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 1718
 
I have long said that if you find a good investment, invest (and lever it up if it's really good).

Your money should always go to the areas where it will be treated best.

Today, that means equities and commodities and not fixed income or housing.

Likewise you will see both equities and commodities crash simultaneously as a result of HIGHER interest rates (at least 7% in the US at this point unless rates move past 6% overnight). That would also probably be a good time to buy bonds and...real estate...

Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat...