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To: SilentZ who wrote (341378)6/26/2007 12:22:29 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576701
 
Throughout human history, if you don't defend your territory, you lose it. Apparently the United States doesn't have the resolve to protect it's territory.

As for who stole what from who. Who were the original inhabitants of the land? How far back are you going to go?



To: SilentZ who wrote (341378)6/26/2007 12:48:44 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576701
 
Maybe so......but it still wasn't stealing.

There's a national outcry to take Mexico; we start a war with them because we want their land;


Hold on.......we didn't start the war with Mexico......they attacked a garrison in TX. That started the war. In fact we had been trying to buy CA and NM for something like $35 million in order to keep Britain from taking over the west coast. However, the gov't was so unstable in Mexico, there was no consistency in the negotiations. Finally, Mexican pride dictated that selling would be a negative inspite of the fact they did not have the money to maintain their properties in what they called Alta California.

after winning the war, we pay them ten cents on the dollar for half of their country.

Ten cents on the dollar? Where did you come up with that figure?

Come on.....$18 million back then is probably worth a couple of billion these days. Not bad for what was mostly semi desert wasteland. Remember........this was CA just before the gold rush......and definitely before irrigation and air conditioning.

How is that not stealing?

I'm not saying we should give it back, but I'm not blaming Mexicans for being pissed off about it.


I am blaming them. I think its pretty stupid especially considering what a mess they have made with the rest of their country.



To: SilentZ who wrote (341378)6/26/2007 1:52:35 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576701
 
Z, > I'm not saying we should give it back, but I'm not blaming Mexicans for being pissed off about it.

I do. Instead of trying to clean up their own act, they're suckering their own people into blaming America.

Which doesn't surprise me. If we want immigrants to respect the land they're in, we might want to make our own citizens respect the land they're in first.

Tenchusatsu



To: SilentZ who wrote (341378)6/26/2007 2:02:53 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1576701
 
"we pay them ten cents on the dollar for half of their country"

Much less than that. Due to it's wonderful, unique climate and resources, CA alone was worth many times what all of Mexico was, even then. Now, it's worth hundreds of times more..