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To: AuBug who wrote (43496)6/29/2007 4:29:36 AM
From: Gib Bogle  Respond to of 78424
 
Hey, don't spoil a good story!



To: AuBug who wrote (43496)6/29/2007 10:04:40 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78424
 
Well that was what Einstein considered spooky action at a distance, or quantum entanglement which has been demonstrated by quantum encryption experiments, (yes it does work, and well) and theoretically at least, and perhaps in practice occurs at any distance instantaneously. So the 'entanglement waves' are beyond the speed of light. Beyond anything. In my view what they are seeing is the simultaneous or seemingly linked vibration of particles, that are entangled whence they are joined or share a quantum energy level with another particle and thereafter are harmonized with their twin.

ichelix1.cc.ic.ac.uk

The SAAAD led E-stein to reject quantum mechanics. (IB) Whilst elements of quantum have been demonstrated, the discreteness of its energy levels may be a red herring. In fact energy may be continuum and discretion may be a mathemetical-statistical mistake.

Of course magnetism is also spooky action at a distance, as no one can explain what a field is and perhaps M only moves at the speed of light.

Observations on entangled states naively appear to conflict with the property of relativity that information cannot be transferred faster than the speed of light. Although two entangled systems appear to interact across large spatial separations, no useful information can be transmitted in this way, so causality cannot be violated through entanglement. This is the statement of the no-communication theorem.

Ernest Rutherford did some interesting experiments and by statistics deduced the spacing of neutrons in gold foil by beaming x-rays through the gold foil and measuring their deflection. This is entirely unrelated to what I was saying but does mention gold twice.

Say, while we are on the subject where do you think gold is going, say statistically?

EC<:-}



To: AuBug who wrote (43496)6/29/2007 11:18:38 AM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78424
 
1) During the big bang the universe expanded a zillion times faster than the speed of light. Oh, I did not know that.

I think the universe doubled something like a billion? times in less than a second from something in size less than a proton.

2) And in the quantum world particles can communicate instantanously across the universe (koan: this is all I am saying, I know nothing about the rest ov this sentence)

koan: I know nothing of this: "When the wave packet overlays an energy barrier that particle may have a sufficiency high probability of being on either side of the energy barrier (koan: particles always have a probability of being anywhere and everywhere-lol) so that it may be said to tunnel through the energy barrier. This usually occurs over distances on the order of angstroms and not the universe. E.g., electrons tunnelling out of the surface of a metal subject to a strong electric field. Do you have an example of it occurring great distances?

koan: All I know is that the scientists know this is true. Distance does not matter. Einstein called this "spooky action at a distance" and didn't like it.