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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (210439)	7/2/2007 5:07:42 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793957

When the ice age article ran, we had virtually nothing in the way of computers - certainly not super computers that we could run models with like today. And that's where the major problem started. They put in false premises about our future climate, and got false answers. Why do you want to believe weather predictions 10 to 50 years out from people who can predict next week's weather? It's all "GIGO." The planet is either getting hotter or colder. Just like it always has. Because it is an open, thermodymic system. Which we are unable to predict accurately. And we will do what we have always done. Adapt to it. By using higher technology. Not by "conserving." You Greens always have "half empty" glasses.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (210439)	7/2/2007 5:38:49 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793957

Stop doing research and stop thinking? No. But people should stop pretending they know all the answers. When the ice age article ran, we had virtually nothing in the way of computers - certainly not super computers that we could run models with like today. Computer models are worthless if you don't know all the inputs and feeback loops and we don't. Have computer models made weather forecasting markedly better? We still can't predict weather very far out and that is somethinge we've been working at most.