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To: Sam who wrote (39449)	7/11/2007 12:33:41 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541859

re: "I doubt if any Central or South American country can compare with it." Chile.

To: Sam who wrote (39449)	7/11/2007 3:20:07 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541859

You may reply, well, Cuba lies, and it's impossible to believe their numbers. I wouldn't go as far as to assert the figures are lies. I'd just say there isn't sufficent independent confirmation of them. And yes Cuba isn't alone in that regard. but plenty of Europeans and and Central and South Americans go to Cuba, if there really was a health disaster going on there, believe me we'd know about it 1 - To a certain extent the Europeans and others are kept apart from the population. Not to a great enough extent to make it likely for them to miss "a health disaster", but I've never said or implied there was any such disaster. Their health care not being as good as Moore implies it is is far from equaling "a health care disaster". Education and health care are their priorities. That isn't the mark of a Stalinist-type dictatorship. I wouldn't say Cuba's government is as extreme as Stalin's. Knocking down that idea is attacking a straw man. But Cuba is a fairly totalitarian society. The priorities for government spending don't determine whether a country is a dictatorship or totalitarian. Also while education and health care are apparently more of a priority then in most poor dictatorships, there is some reason to think the successes of Cuba in these areas are somewhat exaggerated. These pictures in the following link are just an anecdotal example, and likely worse then the norm, but Moore's presentation is also an anecdotal examples and just about certainly far better then the norm. captainsquartersblog.com