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To: Paul Kern who wrote (39459)	7/11/2007 12:11:49 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541769

I don't know anyone who favors a totalitarian right wing government who isn't a marginal nut case- and there just aren't that many of those. I know people who think "freedom" involves a lot more domestic spying than I am comfortable with, but the people who seem to favor a totalitarian government mostly don't realize that is what they favor. I saw someone recently, on another thread, say he was getting to the point where he would favor a military take over of the government (just for a short time, mind you) to straighten things out. Ok- he's a fascist, but he's the only one I've seen say that, and he's a nut.

To: Paul Kern who wrote (39459)	7/11/2007 3:42:55 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 541769

re: "I don't think they necessarily have anything to do with fascism" The people who started this discussion Message 23556410 (First post that shows up on a search of this thread for Sicko) Message 23683148 (Positive comment about Sicko that began this current round of discussion) are more on the left. If your talking about my reply Message 23690071 and later posts well then saying that I have a connection to fascism is an unsupported, and more importantly false, personal attack, as well as not being particularly relevant to the issues of health care in the US and health care in Cuba. Even the idea you responded to, the idea that I or others who disagree with Moore on this are black and white thinkers who think anything from or about Cuba is bad, and America is totally and perfectly good, is unreasonable.