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To: E. Charters who wrote (44742)	7/13/2007 3:22:26 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78412

I think unfettered capitalism is just the other side of the coin which is unfettered socialism. One is as bad as the other. In both cases, psychopaths become the cream of the crop, and rise to the top ranks, all the while enriching themselves without regard to the common folk. Obviously there is a role for government to ensure a somewhat proper distribution of wealth amongst other functions, which is what our system is struggling towards I think/hope. There is always room to improve, and to change the tilt, left or right from time to time. That's what elections are all about.

To: E. Charters who wrote (44742)	7/13/2007 3:35:09 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78412

EC, let me give you my thinking of socieities obligations. My mother only got $550 a month for her retirement from the university of California. she got no social security as she had to be married for 20 years and was only marrried for 16. My mother was a saint, who grew up in abject pverty and worked very hard her whole life. She was terribly crippled with arthritis and her first husband was a drunk and her second husband left her for a younger healthy woman when her health began to fail ( and stle as much of her money as he could)and as a cnsequence she had a nervous breakdown and became pychotic. She was so worried about not being able to feed herself that she had hid small amounts of money all over the house. This happened just as I was finishing my graduate work at the unviersity of Washington and I was broke too. I went to her and spent the rest of her 20 year life taking care of her including giving her my house to live in, with me for awhile, until I got a condo for myself, and gave her money to live on. Her medical prescriptions alone were several hundred a month. If I had not existed, she would surely have died a horribly tortured and impoverished person. It is hard for someone who has crippling arthritus and has beocme psychotic to live on $550 a month. That was also the resaon I was unable to go on to get my doctorate in philosophy and teach at a univesity as I had planned. Not every old sick person has someone to help them.