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To: c.hinton who wrote (236395)	7/14/2007 11:26:45 AM
From: el_gaviero	Respond to of 281500

C. Hinton, Thanks for the correction. I, of course, meant lebensraum not weltanshaung. But really, on the other hand, please -- I am not leftwing, although I will admit that a strange convergence is taking place at the moment between left and right on the business of Iraqi and foreign bases. As far as our troops are concerned, to not want them to come home is to think that America should be an empire, not a republic. It’s that simple. To be sure, you are right -- their coming home will lead to chaos over there. However it cannot be helped. George Bush created the chaos when he invaded. Our retreating from Iraq and from the entire region, and our turning our minds to vast and serious problems at home, is not an ideal solution. But we don’t face ideal solutions. We face bad alternatives. Our best course is to pick the least bad alternative --- which is come home, set to work, and leave the Semitic tribes to do what they have done for thousands of years, fight over waterholes. Also, let me make another point. George Bush is not a conservative.He is the most radical President of the modern era (in his actions --- I doubt seriously that he himself has a clue what he is doing). Over the last three or four generations, left-wing people destroyed local power. That is to say, left-wing politicians established in this country what the Founding Fathers feared most, consolidated government. These left-wingers did this by and large not because they were bad, but because like all the rest of us they like power, and wanted to use it in ways that they thought would be good. Ah, but guess what happened! This consolidated government got taken over by a clique of revolutionary neo-cons (Jews for the most, with a big assist from Pentagon time servers, rip-off artist and job-seeking goons). The neo-cons are pulling this country in a direction dangerously contrary to the interests of this country. There is strong resistance, which sooner or later will allow Americans to recapture Washington. Or else, to stop a recapture, the neo-cons are going to have to rip off the mask, and establish open, violent and naked tyranny, as happened in revolutionary Russia (also mainly a Jewish operation until Stalin turned against Trotsky).

To: c.hinton who wrote (236395)	7/14/2007 3:14:03 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

that is,that zionist have left themselves open to accusations of monumental hypocracy vis a vis perceived similarities with the nazi treatment of jews. It is only the monumental hypocrisy of the world that perceives any comparison. This comparison is as useful for Europe as the demonization of Israel is for the Arabs. The Arab rulers get to deflect their population's unrest onto an external scapegoat. The Europeans get to deflect their guilt over the Holocaust onto the Israelis. If the Israelis are acting like Nazis, they don't need to be guilty anymore, right? If the Israels had really acted the least bit like Arabs, let alone Nazis, there wouldn't be a single Arab living today inside the bounds of the former Mandate of Palestine. Or maybe a handful, just as there are only a handful of Jews left living in Syria and Egypt. All of Israel, including Judea and Samaria (which btw have been the names of those territories for 3000 years) would be entirely Jewish.