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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/19/2007 8:48:20 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
    Wouldn't it be great if members of Congress - from both 
parties - could put our country and the safety of its
citizens ahead of shabby politicking?
    They lie, you die.

TWISTING INTEL

DEMS DISTORT TERROR REPORT

Ralph Peters
NEW YORK POST
Opinion

July 19, 2007 -- DEMOCRATS on Capitol Hill have complained for years that the White House "cherry-picks" intelligence. Yesterday, that's exactly what the Dems did themselves with the just-declassified summary of a National Intelligence Estimate on terrorism.

While preparing for their congressional pajama party Tuesday night (D.C. escort services reportedly had a slow evening), the Dems showed once again that, as wretched as the Bush administration can be, it remains a safer bet in the Age of Terror.

The Dems want to have it both ways. They claim we're not fighting al Qaeda. Then they insist we abandon Iraq to al Qaeda.

And, as a capper, no leading Democrat praised our military when it was revealed yesterday that we captured the senior Iraqi in al Qaeda, Khaled al-Mashhadani. Wouldn't want any good news reaching the voters . . .

The intelligence report in question said, in essence, that, after the devastating blow we struck against al Qaeda in Afghanistan, the terrorists have regained some strength in their safe haven on Pakistan's Northwest Frontier. It doesn't say that al Qaeda is stronger than ever - although that's what the Dems imply.

In 2001, al Qaeda had a country of its own. Today, it survives in isolated compounds. And guess which "veteran warrior" wants to go get them?

Sen. Barack Obama. Far too important to ever serve in the military himself, Obama thinks we should invade Pakistan.

Go for it, Big Guy. Of course, we'll have to reintroduce the draft to find enough troops. And we'll need to kill, at a minimum, a few hundred thousand tribesmen and their families. We'll need to occupy the miserable place indefinitely.

Oh, and Pakistan's a nuclear power already teetering on the edge of chaos.

Barack Obama, strategist and military expert. Who knew?

Not that the problem in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas isn't serious. We should be hitting high-value targets there from the air and employing special operations forces - despite the consequences for the Musharraf government. (Or maybe we could just send in Obama Girl? She'd look hot in a burqa.)

Field Marshall Obama's fire-for-effect belligerence underscores the sad truth that the Dems are perfectly willing to squander the lives of our troops. They just don't want any casualties that might lead to positive results before the 2008 election.

So what's the truth about terrorism? Is the threat worse today than it was in 2001? Why can't we get Osama? Why do the terrorists keep coming?

(We'll skip the embarrassing-for-the-Democrats question about why the terrorists have been unable to strike our country since 9/11.)

Islamist terrorism is about the catastrophic, self-inflicted failure of the Muslim world of the greater Middle East. It's their bad, not ours. They're humiliated, jealous, hateful, stunningly incompetent - and angry about it. And the situation isn't about to change.

We'll face Islamist terror for decades to come. Although only the military can lead this fight, terrorism is like crime in the sense that we'll never eliminate it entirely. But (also as with crime) that doesn't mean it isn't worth reducing terrorism as much as we can.

Does the fact that rapes still occur mean that we should stop arresting rapists? Does our failure to stop all murder mean we should let murderers run wild? Of course not. You nail every criminal you can and make the world safer. But it will never be perfectly safe.

Same with terror.

We have to fight Islamist terrorists tenaciously. And for all its appalling faults, the administration has done a good job on that count. The proof is that we haven't seen 9/11, Act II.

Oh, we will be struck again. It's inevitable. No matter how good you are, the enemy gets in a lick now and then. But an eventual terrorist success won't mean it wasn't worth interdicting all of the other terrorist plots leading up to it.

Every day we live in safety is a win for the good guys.

What about getting bin Laden? Finding a single individual among 6 billion human beings is tough. Look how long it took us to find the Unabomber right here at home (and he didn't have a fanatical protection network). And we only busted him when his own brother turned him in. Still, I'm confident that, one day, we'll see Osama's corpse. And I hope that the Soldier or Marine who kills him has the rocks to plant an American flag in his eye-socket.

Meanwhile, we're killing al Qaeda members (mostly Saudis, thanks) in droves in Iraq. That's a good thing, folks. But the Dems want to call it off: They'd allow a defeated al Qaeda to rebound and declare a strategic victory.

Want to help the terrorists find a new wave of recruits? Give them a win in Iraq.

Bush has gotten plenty wrong. But at least the guy fights. Unlike the Clinton administration - which did all it could to avoid taking serious action against the terrorists as they struck us again and again around the world.

The 9/11 attacks were the culmination of the Clinton presidency. Do we really want to go back there?

If the Dems have a workable plan to put a permanent end to Islamist terror, let's hear it. Prove me wrong. But if they haven't got a serious plan, they need to shut up and help.

Wouldn't it be great if members of Congress - from both parties - could put our country and the safety of its citizens ahead of shabby politicking?

They lie, you die.

Ralph Peters' new book, "Wars of Blood and Faith: The Conflicts That Will Shape the 21st Century," is in bookstores now.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/19/2007 9:53:04 AM
From: mph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
I don't imagine that magazine published any positive stories written by servicemen or women to offset or at least balance
the missives from a guy who uses a nom de plume?

Everything he had to say is possible---particularly if you're talking about a bunch of 18 year olds. But what's the point of highlighting it without addressing the big picture?

I would guess that if some 18 year old Black Muslim stateside murdered a whole family in their sleep, they'd be talking about what good grades he got in school and why his impoverished circumstances impelled him to violence.

Presentation is everything.



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/19/2007 10:44:50 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
That is complete BS. Whoever is writing that fiction should be shot at sunrise without a blindfold.

J.



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/19/2007 11:34:31 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
The "Shock Troops" story is falling apart pretty fast. The Weekly Standard story is hardly a half day old & already folks with first hand knowledge are tearing it apart.

Click on the link & read what is written already in the update section.

weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/19/2007 1:31:54 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 90947
 
The stuff in this just "story" just isn't plausible. This is garbage designed to slander the troops.



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/20/2007 11:37:45 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
Even more convincing evidence has been posted to the Update section of the article, 'Fact or Fiction' that utterly destroys the credibility of the hit piece "Shock Troops" gleefully written for the New Republic (see last link below)

****

Doubting Thomas

Power Line

Has New Republic editor Franklin Foer stepped forward to explain how the magazine verified the disgraceful incidents recounted in the article "Shock troops" by the pseudonymous "Scott Thomas" prior to publication in the magazine's current issue? I can find no evidence that he has.

Grounds to doubt each of the three incidents recounted in the article surfaced immediately after Michael Goldfarb put the question "Fact or fiction?" before the blogosphere. Stephen Spruiell conveniently summarizes the evolution of doubt about Thomas's article (link below), including Michael Yon's message to Goldbarb that the article "sounds like complete garbage."

The incidents recounted by Thomas have certain attributes in common. Each of the three incidents recounted by Thomas reflect poorly on the American forces fighting in Iraq. Each of them is also highly improbable on its face.
How likely is it, for example, that American soldiers would stand for the mockery of a woman disfigured by an IED? Not bloody likely.

Yet one can infer that the New Republic ran the article without much in the way of independent verification of the incidents recounted in it.
Otherwise one of the loquacious editors and staffers who post at The Plank would surely have risen to the challenges raised to the article around the 'net.

Martin Peretz is listed on the magazine's masthead as editor-in-chief. Mr. Peretz, what say you about "Scott Thomas"? Mr. Foer, what say you? Ladies and gentlemen, what say you all? Let us hear from the editors of the New Republic on the steps undertaken by the magazine to verify the incidents recounted in "Shock troops" prior to publication. Let us know whether you stand by the article now, and why.

The New Republic's publication of "Shock troops" was apparently intended to "shock." Publication of the article has served no constructive purpose other than revealing the casual contempt in which our military forces are held by the editors of the magazine. It is time for the powers-that-be at the magazine to explain themselves.

powerlineblog.com

tnr.com

weeklystandard.com

corner.nationalreview.com

tnr.com

tnr.com

RE: "Shock Troops"; go to this link & scroll down for several follow up posts
weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/22/2007 11:45:47 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
The Washington Post goes to bat for the unhinged left & gives New Republic Editor Franklin Foer the opportunity to advance new slanders about our troops.

Foer calls the slanders alleged in the New Republic's "Shock Troops" story “practical jokes" that "are exceptionally mild compared to things that have been documented by the U.S. military".

Then, to add insult to injury, Foer asserts, "Conservative bloggers make a bit of a living denying any bad news that emanates from Iraq."

And as usual in the MSM & left wing rags like the New Republic, neither Foer nor the Washington Post provides any evidence whatsoever to back up their new slanders.

But then that's why I had no problem calling them slanders. They only exist in their alternate universe where facts & reality can be rewritten to fit their world view.

Michael Goldfarb, the author of The Weekly Standard
article, "Fact or Fiction?" that exposed the TNR slanders writes:
    The important thing to remember here is that this isn't a 
story about shoddy fact-checking or a regrettable lapse of
journalistic ethics over at TNR, rather this is indicative
of how the left views the American warfighter. To them,
he's capable of such savagery that the far-fetched stories
related by "Scott Thomas" are not only credible on their
face, but "exceptionally mild....
    .... . If the New Republic and its political kin weren't 
predisposed to view American soldiers as barbaric, then
the "Scott Thomas" story would have struck them, as it did
everyone else who has since commented on it, as
implausible at best.
Read it all here
weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/23/2007 7:12:25 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
How desperate do you have to be to make up a scandal?

By podcasts@redstate.com (Redstate Network) on War
Redstate - Conservative News and Community




Whoops. A media outlet has once again been caught in a Jesse MacBeth-esque attempt to falsely smear US soldiers
-- this time alleging that troops stationed at FOB Falcon (oh, yes -- my own personal former place of residence when with the 1-4 CAV in Baghdad) ridiculed and shunned a female contractor for her badly burned visage, caused by an IED blast (as well as other "atrocities," like steering out of their way to run over dogs in Baghdad streets).

The outlet, The New Republic, used the account of an admittedly pseuonymous "soldier" (going by the name "Scott Thomas") purportedly stationed at FOB Falcon to raise these questions. (of course, by the second sentence of the article - "She wore an unrecognizable tan uniform, so I couldn't really tell whether she was a soldier or a civilian contractor" - the first red flag had been raised to prominence. The assertion made in that sentence alone is dripping with BS)

Since the story was run two weeks ago, bloggers have torn it down piece by piece - using, in part, emails from soldiers who really live on FOB Falcon - exposing the clearly fraudulent nature of so many of the author's claims. In the blogs..... )see linl below) has a great overview of the story.

Michael Goldfarb at the Worldwide Standard (the Weekly Standard's blog) posts an email from an active duty soldier:

<<< In the 11 months I've been here [at FOB Falcon] I've never once seen a female contractor with a burned face. In a compact place like this with only one mess hall I or one of my guys would certainly have noticed someone like that. There are a few female contractors, I think maybe a dozen, but none fit the horrific description given in that article. Further, I've personally seen guys threatened with severe physical harm for making jokes of any kind about IED victims given the number of casualties all the units on this FOB have sustained. It is not a subject we take lightly. Gallows humor jokes do get told, but extremely seldom and never about anyone they actually know or are in the presence of. >>>

There is, of course, more. The latest blow comes from MAJ Kirk Luedeke, the Public Affairs Officer for the 1st ID's 4th IBCT, based at FOB Falcon - an honest man, a good soldier, and a friend of mine. He writes:

<<< 1. There was no mass grave found during the construction of any of our coalition outposts in the Rashid District at any time. Such a discovery would have prompted an investigation and close attention paid at levels higher than ours to making sure that the victims were properly interred and attempts would have been made to determine their identities. It is difficult to fathom that a unit's leadership would condone Soldiers disrespecting the remains of anyone in the fashion described.

2. Due to the threat of IEDs, our combat vehicles are driven professionally and in control at all times. To be driving erratically so as to hit dogs or other things would be to put the entire vehicle's crew at risk and would be gross dereliction of duty by the noncommissioned officer or officer in charge of the vehicle. Drivers aren't allowed to simply free-wheel their vehicles however they see fit, and they are *not* allowed to be moved anywhere with out a vehicle commander present to supervise the movement. Therefore- claims of vehicles leaving the roadways to hit animals are highly dubious, given the very real threat of IEDs and normal standards of conduct.

3. As for the alleged woman with severe burn scars, we have nobody matching that description here at FOB Falcon. As Soldiers, we practice the value of Respect: "Treat people as you want to be treated." If the blogger and his friends can't live the Army value of respect, I have little doubt that someone around them who does would have made an on-the-spot correction. The Falcon dining facility is not a spacious one. Anyone being rude, loud or raucous calls immediate attention to himself. It is hard to fathom that anyone would be able to get away with such callous behavior without somebody intervening and stopping it from happening. >>>

(h/t Matt Sanchez)

Whoops.

Look, American soldiers are human. They make mistakes, they do things wrong, and, as is true with the rest of the population, there will always be some very bad apples within the group. However, if there's a population who more deserves (a) the benefit of the doubt, and (b) freedom from allegation and made-up atrocities in the absence of absolute proof and necessity, then I can't think of it.

Further, FOB Falcon, where this is alleged to have taken place, is constantly populated with journalists; the 4th IBCT is as great a destination for reporters as MNF-I offers. Embeds like myself and my good friends Michael Yon, JD Johannes, and David Beriain, among many, many others, have passed through there, and none of us have ever seen the soldiers there act even remotely in such a way - and you can rest assured that we would be the first to report it if we did.

Note: Regarding the running-over-dogs story, I have only this to add: There are so many wild dogs running around the streets of Baghdad that some are bound to get hit by vehicles. They bark at the trucks doing covert patrols, they move freely through the streets and ruins virtually unmolested, and they run across the road - as dogs are wont to do - at the most inopportune times.

That being said, to chase one down and hit it, purposely, in a giant truck?

Riiiiiiiiiight.

redstate.com

en.wikipedia.org

jeffemanuel.blogspot.com

redstate.com

weeklystandard.com

matt-sanchez.com

jeffemanuel.blogspot.com



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/23/2007 7:34:05 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947
 
    The part of this equation that I find disturbing consists 
of the fact that large numbers of people want to believe
“Scott Thomas”.

The Winter Soldier of the New Republic – “Scott Thomas”

By podcasts@redstate.com (Redstate Network) on War
Redstate - Conservative News and Community

Beginning on January 31, 1971, an anti-war group, Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), spent three days in Detroit, Mi compiling what they called testimony of US military atrocities in Vietnam. They then went to Washington, DC to hold a series of protests, the most famous of which was “Dewey Canyon III”. This launched the lamentable career of John Kerry, but more importantly, it slandered hundreds of innocent soldiers who served in the US Marine Corps in Vietnam, by falsely accusing them of war atrocities.

In one session of the Winter Soldier Investigation entitled “The 1st Marine Division”, the following accusations were made against soldiers in The US Marine Corps.

Read on . . .


<<< He was about 70 years old. I believe he was some sort of religious, like a monk or something like that, from his dress. He had an ID card and he was in pretty bad shape so they didn't want to call in a MEDIVAC chopper so they told us to kill him.

The calling in of artillery for games, the way it was worked would be the mortar forward observers would pick out certain houses in villages, friendly villages, and the mortar forward observers would call in mortars until they destroyed that house and then the artillery forward observer would call in artillery until he destroyed another house and whoever used the least amount of artillery, they won.

The torturing of prisoners was done with beatings and I saw one case where there were two prisoners. One prisoner was staked out on the ground and he was cut open while he was alive and part of his insides were cut out... >>>


Many of these claims became utterly risible under close scrutiny.

    Among the persons assisting the VVAW in organizing and 
preparing this hearing was Mark Lane, author of a book
attacking the Warren Commission probe of the Kennedy
Assassination and more recently of "Conversations with
Americans", a book of interviews with Vietnam veterans
about war crimes. On 22 December 1970 Lane's book had
received a highly critical review in the "New York Times
Book Review" by Neil Sheehan, who was able to show that
some of the alleged "witnesses" of Lane's war crimes had
never even served in Vietnam while others had not been in
the combat situations they described in horrid detail.
Other atrocities described in The Winter Soldier Investigation and the Congressional Hearings that followed, were staged propaganda stunts.

One of the stories told and retold was that of prisoners pushed out of helicopters in order to scare others into talking…..

<<< An investigation by the CID identified the soldier who had taken the photograph; it also identified a second soldier who acquired the picture, made up the story of the interrogation and mailed it and the photograph to his girlfriend. She in turn gave them to her brother, who informed the Chicago Sun-Times. On 29-30 November 1969 the picture and the story appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times and the Washington Post and generated wide media interest. >>>


Today’s anti-war movement has had some success at turning the public against the US military as well. Stories from Haditha and Abu-Ghurayb have had a discernible effect on the public’s perception of both the military and its mission in Iraq. To date, however, they haven’t successfully made the American public look down on the American military as successfully as they did in Vietnam.

This mission has seemingly fallen to New Republic Magazine blogger, “Scott Thomas.”
Thomas posts under a pseudonym and supposedly soldiers in the vicinity of Operating Base Falcon, in Baghdad. He posts a blog about his war experience in Iraq entitled “Shock Troops”.

Thomas consistently posts about how cruel and barbaric American soldiers have been in Iraq. His posts have featured, a woman disfigured from an IED blast being ridiculed in an Army chow hall, a soldier vandalizing corpses in a mass grave as part of a practical joke and a BFV driver who gets off on running over dogs that he finds loose in the street. The Thomas blog posts are a grim flashback to John Kerry’s preposterous fables from The Winter Soldier Investigations of 1971.

The accusations are even being debunked with the same overwhelmingly clarity.
The prose and stylings of “Scott Thomas” are reminding a lot of people of some blog posts by a former US Army soldier, Clifton Hicks.

Numerous soldiers who have driven BFVs have weighed in on the improbability of the BFV driver running over large numbers of dogs for sport. I’ve personally driven an M-577 and an M-81. Both are tracked vehicles which are far lighter and easily maneuvered than the BFV. Neither of these vehicles could successfully surprise a sleeping mutt.

Believing this particular story is a sure sign of someone who totally lacks familiarity with US Army tracked vehicles. This lack of understanding is not surprising, given that most modern Americans have never worn the uniform. The part of this equation that I find disturbing consists of the fact that large numbers of people want to believe “Scott Thomas”. A demand exists for false war stories that paint the US military in the worst light possible.

At present, “Scott Thomas” lacks the credibility, notoriety and support to seriously damage our mission or our force. However, he should still be weeded out. The time to purge a sarcoma is before it spreads and becomes terminal. “Scott Thomas” needs to be outted and all of his stories investigated in the forum of a formal military court martial.

redstate.com

vietnamveteranministers.org

wintersoldier.com

wintersoldier.com

cnn.com

globalsecurity.org

ssl.tnr.com

iava.org



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/25/2007 1:26:11 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
    It may be that The New Republic editors and others who 
believed Thomas' journal entries without skepticism are
infected with Nifong Syndrome -- the mind virus that
causes otherwise intelligent people to embrace likely
falsehoods because they validate a preconceived belief....
    Why? Because the lies supported their own truths.

Anonymous in Iraq

By Kathleen Parker
RealClearPolitics

So did you hear the one about American soldiers playing with dead baby parts found in a mass grave in Iraq?

No wait, how about the guy who loved to drive Bradley armored vehicles so he could knock down concrete barriers and mow down little doggies sunning in the road?

Or this one: American soldiers in a chow hall making fun of a woman whose face was "more or less melted, along with all the hair on that side of her head" from an IED.

These are but a few of the claims made by one "Scott Thomas," otherwise known as the "Baghdad Diarist," allegedly a soldier serving in Iraq who has sent three dispatches to The New Republic since January. He uses the pseudonym "Scott Thomas," say the magazine's editors, so he can give honest reports without fear of official reprisal.

But are they honest? Or has The New Republic (TNR) been ''glassed'' again? In the 1990s, TNR Associate Editor Stephen Glass was fired for fabricating stories.

The conservative Weekly Standard began questioning the reports last week. Bloggers have joined in challenging the anecdotes, as have military personnel who have served in Iraq and, in some cases, have eaten in the same chow hall mentioned.

Thomas' version of events in Iraq is looking less and less credible and smacks of the "occult hand."

The occult hand was an inside joke several years ago among a group of journalists who conspired to see how often they could slip the phrase -- "It was as if an occult hand had ..." -- into their copy. This went on for years to the great merriment of a few in the know.

Looking back, it's hard to imagine how a phrase as purple as "an occult hand" could have enjoyed such long play within the tribe of professional skeptics known as journalists. Similarly, one wonders how Thomas' reports have appeared in the magazine without his editors saying, "Hey, wait just a minute."

When it comes to the playbook of anti-military cliches, Thomas seems guilty of plagiarism. What could be more cliche, after all, than American soldiers ridiculing a defaced woman, running over dogs or desecrating babies' remains?

The New Republic editors say they're investigating the reports, but refuse to reveal the author's identity. There's always a chance, of course, that these stories have some truth to them. Maybe a guy made an unkind remark about a poor woman's burned face. Maybe a dog got run over. Maybe a grave was found and a soldier capped his head with a skull part.

Stranger -- and far worse -- things have happened in war. But people who have served in Iraq have raised enough questions about these particular anecdotes that one is justified in questioning whether they are true.

As just one example, it is unlikely that a Bradley would be driven through concrete barriers just for fun, according to an Army JAG who e-mailed me. He explained that people aren't alone out there. Other vehicles, NCOs and officers would be around and Iraqis would have made a claim for repairs, resulting in a JAG investigation.

In other words, either plenty of people would know about it -- or it didn't happen.

It may be that The New Republic editors and others who believed Thomas' journal entries without skepticism are infected with Nifong Syndrome -- the mind virus that causes otherwise intelligent people to embrace likely falsehoods because they validate a preconceived belief.

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor in the alleged Duke lacrosse team rape case, was able to convince a credulous community of residents, academics and especially journalists that the three falsely accused men had raped a black stripper despite compelling evidence to the contrary.

Why? Because the lies supported their own truths. In the case of Duke, that "truth" was that privileged white athletes are racist pigs who of course would rape a black woman given half a chance and a bottle o' beer.

In the case of Scott Thomas, the "truth" that American soldiers are woman-hating, dog-killing, grave-robbing monsters confirms what many among the anti-war left believe about the military, despite their protestations that they "support the troops."

We tend to believe what we want to believe, in other words.

Whether Scott Thomas is real and his reports true remains to be determined. In the meantime, it is tempting to wonder: What if we believed in American honor and victory in Iraq?

What would those dispatches look like?

kparker@kparker.com
(c) 2007, Washington Post Writers Group

realclearpolitics.com



To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/25/2007 2:25:37 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
More on the made-up atrocities

Redstate - Conservative News and Community

Courtesy of Michael Goldfarb at the Worldwide Standard, we have another statement from MAJ Kirk Luedeke, the Public Affairs Officer for the 4th IBCT at FOB Falcon near Baghdad (a location where I was on my last embed, and where I will be again on this embed). The text of his email is below the fold; as always, he is direct, to the point, and very, very believable.

<SNIP>

MAJ Luedeke's email is as follows:

<<< I've been watching the events on the New Republic's "Scott Thomas" piece with interest.

As the 4th IBCT Public Affairs Officer- I can tell you unequivocally: there was NO mass grave discovered in this area of operations in conjunction with the building of a coalition outpost anytime in the past 12 months. None. Zero. Zip. And Frank Foer's assertions to the contrary, there is no way that his mystery soldier "Scott Thomas" can prove it. Foer can produce all of the alleged "eyewitnesses" he wants- unless these individuals are willing to back up their claims with real evidence, it's just so much garbage on a computer screen. Some people seem to forget that the burden of proof should be on the New Republic to back up his unsubstantiated claims and not the other way around.

If the story *is* true, then "Scott" and whomever else is purporting to back up his assertions should come forward, identify themselves and submit their report through official channels.
We are not in the business of suppressing his right to free speech...on the contrary- he's free to submit whatever he wants, so long as it doesn't put others at risk for operational security (OPSEC). Of course- by putting his name on such outlandish claims, he then has to account for what is clearly a series of false statements. So- obviously- it is left to reasonable people to decide who is telling the truth here.

I invite Mr. Foer and the New Republic to actually give us something to go on. Proof. Any kind will do- and something more than one anonymous soldier's claims and a nebulous "we've heard from others who can corroborate it," kinds of responses he provided Howard Kurtz. It's kind of hard to take these allegations seriously, when you're hiding behind the cloak of anonymity. Just about every Soldier these days has his or her own digital camera or video camera. Talk to anyone here- every unit down to squad level in our brigade is *required* to have a camera on every mission. It's all part of being prepared for such a discovery. Surely- there would be photos of the skulls and mass grave if it truly existed, would there not? The reason there isn't any photos, is because simply- the story isn't true.

There may be small grains of truth to what Scott Thomas has written. But, I can tell you that at least one event he's described as "fact" could not have occurred. To claim that an entire chain of command was complicit in keeping quiet such a grisly and important discovery of such magnitude stretches the realm of believability and is a grave insult to the professionalism and dedication of so many fine Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines serving here.

I know that if my organization claimed to have unearthed a sizeable cache of hundreds of explosives, rockets, nitric acid and other key components to make roadside bombs, otherwise known here in these parts as a "good news story," media outlets would rightfully demand some kind of proof to subtantiate our claims. That's why we take pictures of such things and provide them along with our press releases. The inability of the New Republic and Scott Thomas to provide any kind of photographic evidence whatsoever, and the fact that "Scott" isn't willing to come forward and identify himself, pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

If he is in fact speaking the truth- he should have no problem putting his real name next to it. It's called integrity, and it's one of the seven Army Values. That neither he nor the New Republic want to do that, and then hide behind the need to protect him from "retribution" (when I would add that he *is* in fact breaking a DoD directive with his actions) merely underscores the dubious nature of this whole story.

I invite Scott Thomas to come by the Dragon PAO shop at FOB Falcon- Bldg 301, Rm 119, and I'd be happy to share the DoD media policy with him. While he's here, I'd love to discuss with him the mass graves, Bradley IFV dog hunting and IED burn victim he's so intent on stating is fact. If he can provide the evidence, I will gladly retract every word I've posted on the subject. If he's not willing to do that, then it kind of makes you wonder about his credibility, and that of the New Republic's doesn't it?

Best regards,

Major Kirk Luedeke

Public Affairs Officer

4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division DRAGONS FOB Falcon >>>

(Emphasis added) Like I said, the soldiers are human. They will make mistakes, and those mistakes - especially when malicious - are fair game for journalists to, for lack of a better word, exploit. So why the rush to hang them with suspect info from a pseudonymous, uncorroborated source? It just smacks - very loudly - of a very, very strong desire to portray them as being horrible, horrible people, regardless of the facts (not to mention a desperate lack of patience; could somebody be worried that (a) they won't get the scoop if they take time to verify, or (b) a real atrocity just might not come along if the effort is made to check the facts on every report?)

Either way, that is, in a word, Pathetic.

Look, here's an offer for The New Republic: I'll be back at FOB Falcon in about six weeks. I'd be more than happy to do whatever investigative work is necessary to either corroborate or debunk the story (or stories) provided to you by "Scott Thomas." Just let me know via the contact tool on this site.

Deal?

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/26/2007 3:48:44 AM
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    For TNR, “Scott Thomas” provides the approved, 
preconceived, narrative — facts be damned.

Stephen Glass Meets the Winter Soldiers

The tendency to believe the worst.

By Mackubin Thomas Owens
National Review Online

As everyone knows by now, bloggers (including on National Review Online’s “The Tank” and “The Corner”) have begun to question the veracity of several The New Republic articles purportedly authored by an active-duty soldier serving in Iraq. The three articles by the pseudonymous “Scott Thomas” describe behavior by American soldiers that, while not rising to the level of atrocities, is nonetheless troubling. TNR’s “Baghdad Diarist” describes his mates mocking a woman horribly scarred by an IED, portrays another wearing part of a human skull, and depicts yet another using a Bradley fighting vehicle to run over stray dogs. What are we to make of these stories?

Michael Yon, perhaps the most reliable observer of troops in Iraq, labels the “Diarist’s” stories as “garbage.” Most of the other comments I have seen, especially by soldiers and Marines who are serving or have served in Iraq, describe the stories in less polite terms.

Nonetheless, the “Diarist’s” stories remind me of the sort of shocking and outrageous statements young men like to tell to credulous listeners. As the late Harry Summers, a veteran of two wars once remarked, such stories are intended to have the same impact as the sight of two Hell’s Angels French kissing in front of a group of bystanders: shock and awe. They also remind me of the predisposition of the American press to believe the worst about American soldiers, a predisposition that dates to the Vietnam War.

NRO readers may recall that I wrote a number of articles about atrocities, real and alleged, during the run up to the 2004 election. I was especially critical of John Kerry, who, despite honorable service during the Vietnam War, essentially smeared all of his comrades as war criminals after he left active duty. Who can forget his 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Here he invoked the so-called “Winter Soldier Investigation,” organized by such antiwar celebrities as Jane Fonda and conspiracy theorist Mark Lane, in which:

<<< over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. . . . They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do. They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country. >>>

As with the TNR case today, most Vietnam veterans took these confessions with a grain of salt. When I read Mark Lane’s 1970 book, Conversations with Americans, and the transcripts of the Winter Soldiers Investigation, I was struck by how implausible most of the atrocity claims were. I was apparently not alone. Lane’s book was panned by James Reston Jr. and Neil Sheehan, not exactly known as war supporters; Sheehan demonstrated that many of Lane’s “eyewitnesses” either had never served in Vietnam or had not done so in the capacities they claimed.

In an earlier NRO piece, I recounted a personal anecdote that made me question the Winter Soldier Investigation stories — and makes me skeptical of the “Scott Thomas” story being pushed by TNR. I began by noting that I didn’t commit or witness atrocities during my tour in Vietnam as a Marine infantry platoon leader. As far as I know, neither did the other officers in my regiment and battalion. But I heard of an atrocity just after I joined the unit. A Marine who was scheduled to rotate soon recounted an incident that he claimed had occurred shortly after he had arrived in the unit about a year earlier. According to his story, members of a sister company had killed some North Vietnamese soldiers after they had surrendered.

Some months later, I happened to overhear another Marine who had joined my platoon after I took it over relate exactly the same story to some newly arrived men, only now it involved me and my platoon. I had a little chat with him and he cleared things up with the new men. But that episode has always made me wonder how many of the stories have been recycled and how many accounts of atrocities are based on what veterans heard as opposed to committed or witnessed.

In Iraq, we have seen evidence of the press’s predisposition to believe the worst about American soldiers in its coverage of Abu Ghraib, Fallujah, and most recently Hadithah. It is now on display, not only in the TNR story, but also in “The Other War: Iraq Veterans Bear Witness“ in the July 30th issue of The Nation, which bills the Iraq war as “a dark and even depraved enterprise.” The article is based on interviews with some 50 Iraq war veterans and purportedly describes “disturbing patterns of behavior by American troops in Iraq.” According to the piece, the war has “led many troops to declare an open war on all Iraqis.”

I have news for the editors of The Nation: War, especially the sort of war we are waging in Iraq — a war in which a man or boy who waves at American troops during the day may plant an IED at night — can desensitize even the most decent individual. History proves that in the absence of leadership and enforced rules of engagement, war can lead one to the depths of moral depravity. But no military in history has attempted to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to the extent that the U.S. military has. The Nation lays civilian casualties in Iraq at the feet of the US military. But this is nonsense. The very fact that Sunni sheiks in al Anbar province and elsewhere are turning against al Qaeda indicates that they know who kills indiscriminately, even if The Nation doesn’t.

Of course, the approved version of this predisposition is to attribute the bad behavior of troops in Iraq not to moral depravity per se, but to the policy that put them in Iraq in the first place. Thus John Murtha (D., Pa.), while publicly convicting Marines in Hadithah of “kill[ing] innocent civilians in cold blood,” then absolved them by claiming that the alleged incident “shows the tremendous pressure that these guys are under every day when they’re out in combat.”

TNR’s record on this sort of thing is not particularly good.

There is of course, Stephen Glass. But the predisposition of which I speak was on full display in the September 6, 2004, issue of TNR. There Peter Beinart suggested in “Apocalypse Redux” that those who criticized Kerry were somehow denying that atrocities occurred in Vietnam. Beinart then went on to cite a number of historians who, sure enough, assured us that atrocities did occur in Vietnam. Of course, no one disputes the fact that Americans committed atrocities in Vietnam. But as Jim Webb observed at the time, the
    “stories of atrocious conduct, repeated in lurid detail by
Kerry before the Congress, represented not the typical
experience of the American soldier, but its ugly extreme”
(emphasis added).

The press’s predisposition to believe certain stories was nicely dissected by Rachael Smolkin’s piece on the Duke-lacrosse rape story in the June/July issue of The American Journalism Review, “Justice Delayed.” She quotes Daniel Okrent, a former New York Times public editor, who, in words that apply directly to coverage of the war in Iraq, states that
    [The Duke lacrosse story] was too delicious…. It conformed
too well to too many preconceived notions of too many in
the press: white over black, rich over poor, athletes over
non-athletes, men over women, educated over non-educated.
Wow. That’s a package of sins that really fit the
preconceptions of a lot of us.
But then she gleans from Newsweek’s Evan Thomas an admission that captures the essence of what’s wrong with the American press when it comes to reporting not only on the Duke-lacrosse case, but also on Iraq:
    We fell into a stereotype of the Duke lacrosse players. 
It’s complicated because there is a strong stereotype
[that] lacrosse players can be loutish, and there’s
evidence to back that up. There’s even some evidence that
that the Duke lacrosse players were loutish, and we were
too quick to connect those dots. It was about race.
Nifong’s motivations clearly were rooted in his need to
win black votes. There were tensions between town and
gown, that part was true. The narrative was properly about
race, sex and class. . . . We went a beat too fast in
assuming that a rape took place. . . . We just got the
facts wrong. The narrative was right, but the facts were
wrong
(my emphasis).
Smolkin writes that “often, the preconceptions — rather than the facts — dictated not only the tone of the coverage but also its volume and prominence.” For TNR, “Scott Thomas” provides the approved, preconceived, narrative — facts be damned.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/27/2007 4:21:59 PM
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Day by Day

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)7/27/2007 5:40:12 PM
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What's that Now?

Jonah Goldberg
The Corner

"Scott Thomas" now known as Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp writes:

<<< That being said, my character, my experiences, and those of my comrades in arms have been called into question, and I believe that it is important to stand by my writing under my real name. >>>


Isn't this just a bit too precious? The guy writes about how his comrades mock disfigured women, slaughter dogs and wear baby skulls as hats, but he's upset that others have called his and his comrades' character into question? Someone explain that to me.

In fact, much of the criticism has been that U.S. soldiers would have better characters than those described in his pieces. Sorry: No sale. Scot Thomas Beauchamp may or may not be honest, but he's by no means a victim.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/2/2007 7:46:33 PM
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Well, It Was Part Of Iraq For A Time, Right?

By Ed Driscoll
Oh, That Liberal Media
August 02, 2007 02:55 PM

Scott Thomas Beauchamp in the New Republic, 7/13/07:

<<< saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq. She wore an unrecognizable tan uniform, so I couldn't really tell whether she was a soldier or a civilian contractor. The thing that stood out about her, though, wasn't her strange uniform but the fact that nearly half her face was severely scarred. Or, rather, it had more or less melted, along with all the hair on that side of her head. She was always alone, and I never saw her talk to anyone. Members of my platoon had seen her before but had never really acknowledged her. Then, on one especially crowded day in the chow hall, she sat down next to us. >>>

His editors today:

<<< “The recollections of these three soldiers differ from Beauchamp's on one significant detail (the only fact in the piece that we have determined to be inaccurate): They say the conversation occurred at Camp Buehring, in Kuwait, prior to the unit's arrival in Iraq. When presented with this important discrepancy, Beauchamp acknowledged his error. We sincerely regret this mistake.” >>>


As Dean Barnett writes, "I thought Beauchamp was supposed to communicate to TNR’s audience of urban sophisticates what things are like in Iraq, not Kuwait." Stephen Spruiell adds, "That's a rather significant detail to flub, given that the author's intent was to illustrate the morally deadening effects of war."

Maybe it's time for Beauchamp to attempt the Full Metal Jacket defense, something along the lines of "we were we were morally deadened even before combat, and so programmed to kill that we didn't know where we were." Or start shopping the movie rights.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/6/2007 6:54:18 PM
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Not-So-Great Scott

John Podhoretz
The Corner

The New Republic has, in essence, defended the personal essay by U.S. soldier Scott Thomas Beauchamp on all grounds save one: That Beauchamp relocated to Iraq an incident in which he participated in Kuwait. In that incident, he supposedly made fun of a horribly burned woman while others laughed along.

It is now looking like that incident was entirely invented, and that The New Republic had reason to know there were problems with its veracity before it published its defense of Beauchamp.


Bob Owens, who runs the fine and careful website Confederate Yankee, has received an e-mail from an Army public-affairs officer in Kuwait where Thomas supposedly did the burned-woman-insulting that reads, bluntly: "We have absolutely no record of this. MAJ Russo contacted Buerhing and our Area Support Group and they do not have anything either."

That Major Russo is the same official who was contacted by Jason Zengerle of the New Republic, who was trying to verify the Beauchamp story after its publication. She told Confederate Yankee that she informed Zengerle she had "not been able to find anyone to back it up. There is not a police
report or complaint filed on this incident during that timeframe. Right now it is considered to be a Urban Legend or Myth." Her skepticism is nowhere reflected in TNR's apologia for Beauchamp.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/8/2007 5:34:40 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
Don't Beauchamp that joint

Power Line

The final chapter in the Scott Thomas Beauchamp saga has yet to be written, but Mark Steyn makes a point that should be kept in mind if Michael Goldfarb's intelilgence bears out:
    If that Weekly Standard story is correct, it moves Private
Beauchamp into full-blown Stephen Glass territory. In
essence, they made the same mistakes all over again -
falling for pat cinematic vividness, pseudo-novelistic
dialogue, all designed to confirm prejudices so ingrained
the editors didn't even recognize they were being pandered
to. But this time they did it in war, which is worse.
Recall that nearly thirty of the stories that New Republic fabulist Stephen Glass wrote for the New Republic were subsequently determined to be fabricated in whole or in part. Recall the conflicting statements posted by "the editors" of the New Republic confirming and standing by Beauchamp's three TNR articles with the ultimate exception of the location of the incident involved in the lead anecodote of "Shock troops" (which itself destroyed the purported point of the anecdote). We await some definitive word on the Army's investigation and the return of "the editors" from their vacation.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/10/2007 12:04:12 AM
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One of TNR's Experts... Refutes TNR

The truth about Bradley Fighting Vehicles.

by Michael Goldfarb
The Weekly Standard
08/09/2007

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT it couldn't get worse for the New Republic, Bob Owens reveals what can only be described as a serious deception by the magazine's editors in their statement corroborating Beauchamp's "Shock Troops" article.

In delivering the findings of the magazine's investigation, the editors had stated,


<<< The last section of the Diarist described soldiers using Bradley Fighting Vehicles to kill dogs. On this topic, one soldier who witnessed the incident described by Beauchamp, wrote in an e-mail: "How you do this (I've seen it done more than once) is, when you approach the dog in question, suddenly lurch the Bradley on the opposite side of the road the dog is on. The rear-end of the vehicle will then swing TOWARD the animal, scaring it into running out into the road. If it works, the dog is running into the center of the road as the driver swings his yoke back around the other way, and the dog becomes a chalk outline." TNR contacted the manufacturer of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle System, where a spokesman confirmed that the vehicle is as maneuverable as Beauchamp described. Instructors who train soldiers to drive Bradleys told us the same thing. And a veteran war correspondent described the tendency of stray Iraqi dogs to flock toward noisy military convoys. >>>


Why did TNR not include the name of the spokesman who "confirmed that the vehicle is as maneuverable as Beauchamp described"? Because he did no such thing. Owens tracked down this mystery spokesman, now identified as
Doug Coffey, head of Communications, Land & Armaments, for BAE Systems, who, it turns out, had never been shown a copy of Beauchamp's story, and who was only asked, in his words, "general questions about vehicle specifications." Owens showed Coffey a copy of the article, and put the question to him: Can the Bradley be operated in the manner described by Beauchamp? His answer, it turns out, was no different than that offered by the Worldwide Standard's own expert, Stuart Koehl, who initially stated that such a maneuver would be virtually impossible, and further that it is inconceivable that such behavior would be tolerated.

Here's Coffey:


<<< I can't pretend to know what may or may not have happened in Iraq but the impression the writer leaves is that a "driver" can go on joy rides with a 35 ton vehicle at will. The vehicle has a crew and a commander of the vehicle who is in charge. In order for the scenario described to have taken place, there would have to have been collaboration by the entire crew.

The driver's vision, even if sitting in an open hatch is severely restricted along the sides. He sits forward on the left side of the vehicle. His vision is significantly impaired along the right side of the vehicle which makes the account to "suddenly swerve to the right" and actually catch an animal suspect. If you were to attempt the same feat in your car, it would be very difficult and you have the benefit of side mirrors.

Anyone familiar with tracked vehicles knows that turning sharply requires the road wheels on the side of the turn to either stop or reverse as the road wheels on the opposite side accelerates. What may not be obvious is that the track once on the ground, doesn't move. The road wheels roll across it but the track itself is stationary until it is pushed forward by the road wheels.

The width of the track makes it highly unlikely that running over a dog would leave two intact parts. One half of the dog would have to be completely crushed.

It also seems suspicious that a driver could go on repeated joy rides or purposefully run into things. Less a risk to the track though that is certainly possible but there is sensitive equipment on the top of the vehicle, antennas, sights, TOW missile launcher, commander and if it was a newer vehicle, the commander's independent viewer, not to mention the main gun. Strange things are known to happen in a combat environment but I can't imagine that the vehicle commander or the unit commander would tolerate repeated misuse of the vehicle, especially any action that could damage its ability to engage. >>>


To repeat: A dog could not have been cut in half as Beauchamp described--and that according to the New Republic's own expert--one half of the dog "would have to be completely crushed." Coffey uses words like suspicious, suspect, and unlikely--yet the New Republic did not see fit to print Coffey's concerns. In fact, they didn't even see fit to show Coffey the original article.

And what of all their other unnamed experts? Why does the New Republic feel compelled to grant them anonymity when they can't possibly fear retribution?

Michael Goldfarb is online editor at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/10/2007 3:53:51 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
    There was a time when such a history--especially an 
unregretted history--would disqualify a politician from
prominence as a national leader; that time is gone,
apparently.

A Winter Soldier footnote

Posted by Scott
Power Line

Earlier this week the Wall Street Journal published a powerful column by the former Romanian intelligence officer Ion Mihai Pacepa. The subject of Pacepa's column was the destructive effect of the left's intemperate attacks on the president. Buried in Pacepa's column is this intriguing paragraph:
    During the Vietnam War we spread vitriolic stories around 
the world, pretending that America's presidents sent
Genghis Khan-style barbarian soldiers to Vietnam who raped
at random, taped electrical wires to human genitals, cut
off limbs, blew up bodies and razed entire villages. Those
weren't facts. They were our tales, but some seven million
Americans ended up being convinced their own president,
not communism, was the enemy. As Yuri Andropov, who
conceived this dezinformatsiya war against the U.S., used
to tell me, people are more willing to believe smut than
holiness.
The themes identified here by Pacepa were of course products of the "Winter Soldier investigation" in which John Kerry participated. Kerry featured each of the themes identified by Pacepa in his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971. Pacepa's comments warrant attention.

I saw Kerry regurgitating his Foreign Relations Committee testimony
when he appeared at Dartmouth on the second floor of the student center later that spring as head of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. One of the students in the audience stood up to walk out on Kerry's speech and shouted to Kerry as he approached the steps to go down to the first floor: "You phony. You're just in this to promote your own career." Kerry was only momentarily flustered, bending down to the microphone and asking the guy to stay and talk after he'd already gone down the steps. At the time I couldn't believe the obtuseness of the student; I bought Kerry's act completely.

In her column yesterday, Michelle Malkin names the phenomenon represented by Kerry "Winter Soldier Syndrome." She diagnoses its current manifestation in Scott Thomas Beauchamp and the New Republic and concludes:
    Winter Soldier Syndrome will only be cured when the costs 
of slandering the troops outweigh the benefits. Exposing
Scott Thomas Beauchamp and his brethren matters because
the truth matters. The honor of the military matters. The
credibility of the media matters.
And there are at least a few "editors" (if not readers) who profess to believe Beauchamp's bilge with less excuse than I had for believing Kerry's in 1971.

UPDATE: Reader Tom Heard reminds me of Pacepa's 2004 NRO column "Kerry's Soviet rhetoric" (linked below)

JOHN adds: Pacepa's NRO column is more detailed and more devastating, with regard to Kerry, than his WSJ piece. If Pacepa is credible, John Kerry built his political career as a willing dupe of a hostile foreign power, the U.S.S.R. There was a time when such a history--especially an unregretted history--would disqualify a politician from prominence as a national leader; that time is gone, apparently.

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To: Sully- who wrote (61084)8/10/2007 11:28:40 AM
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All the Soldiers Refute All the Claims. All of them.

By podcasts@redstate.com (Redstate Network) on War

Others, like Jeff, will I'm sure say more better than I, but the day should not get too far gone without mentioning this AP report:

<<< The Army said this week it had concluded an investigation of Beauchamp's claims and found them false.

"During that investigation, all the soldiers from his unit refuted all claims that Pvt. Beauchamp made in his blog,"
Sgt. 1st Class Robert Timmons, a spokesman in Baghdad for the 4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, based at Fort Riley, Kan., said in an e-mail interview. >>>

The New Republic used Scott Thomas Beauchamp used the New Republic to expound on how war turns all soldiers into rogue cretins. All those soldiers, at least the ones Scott Thomas Beauchamp served with, have now refuted all of Scott Thomas Beauchamp's claims.

Are all the soldiers liars or just Scott Thomas Beauchamp? And if all soldiers are liars, isn't Scott Thomas Beauchamp, a soldier himself, a liar? Or are only those soldiers Scott Thomas Beauchamp serves with day in and day out sharing the same experiences liars?

TheNew Republic still has a lot of explaining to do.

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