To: LoneClone who wrote (45843 ) 7/28/2007 11:42:11 AM From: E. Charters Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78426 Tombstone was frontier silver. Earp and his gang were businessmen who had some claims on the edge of town, and supplied rip off services to the miners. Clantons were cattle ranchers. Earp did not like them supplying without giving him a cut (as he was the de facto Don), and he gunned them down. When miners and ranchers got together the more numerous and tougher miners usually beat the crap out of the cowboys. They were better with their guns too. A lot of shoot outs in those days in Butte, Wisconsin, California, Michigan, Telluride (famous for placer gold BION) were over mining claims and high grade. Burt a mining town of those days were peaceful compared to an inner city in the US today. 128 boot Hill graves of gunmen in Tombstone. That is over a period of 30 years. It was a town of 7,000 people. Not that bad, all in all, but it would outdo the average town in Ontario I would warrant. Hand-mucking 20 tons a day and hand steeling 16 holes a day makes a man lean and mean. I know a Cobalt miner of the 1950's who won a bet by pushing a Volkswagen Beetle (with one hand) 10 miles between the towns of Cobalt and New Liskeard. And there are hills in there too. Tombstone was founded on a vein, that was 50 feet long and 12 inches wide, but probably ran about 250 ounces to the ton Ag. The first claims sold in an option worth about $1,000,000. A claim in Tombstone yielded 85 million in those day's dollars. (A bit less than a billion today.) The 12 inch discoery vein of the miner Schlieffen would represent a those days prices of 5 dollars an ounce, 200,000 ounces for 500 tons!! Not many people who would get out of bed for a vein of that size these days. Many in Argentina of similar ilk remain unmined. They just look too small. Report a 12 inch intersection in the paper's these days, and the investor will turn the page quickly. Today silver is perhaps 1/8 the relative price of those days. 1880 saw real inflation, but it was still 1/10 the cost of living of today as many prices overall were much lower. People did not spend much money on fuel. You can see why the guns would come out occasional. Many of the original miners of Tombstone ended up in Canada's Yukon. Non of them could carry 6-guns there. About 80% of them ended up staying. There were few CDN's that populated the Yukon originally. As usual hollywood got it screwed up and made the Earp brothers the heroes. The real story of the real and widley peripatetic lawmen who were, some of them, only slightly less murderous than the people they gunned down, as in Messr's Tillman and Thomas has never been told as it was, in Hollywood fiction. The Texas Rangers were a murderous fascist lot, but they may have been necessary as things were pretty wild and free out there. The real reason they robbed stages was not for the odd payroll, or bank deposit as the paper money was marked, but for the gold and silver coming from Mexico and California. Black Bart is rumoured to have hid 6 million dollars in bullion in his stashes. Probably given a long leash by the Pinkerton men in order that they might profit from the recovery. They say his gold was never found. For that reason most of the silver was moved in slow mule trains with 400 lb silver bars. Shotgun riding in front with boilerplate vests, and a henry or two in the wagon. Few of those stages got robbed as it required a smelter or heavy saw and a lot of finagling to handle the product. 16 Horse Silver Train Those old frontiersmen were fairly literate and poetic. The newspapers are Victorian and rather stilted in expression, but in those days people actually spoke like that. Deadwood is perhaps accurate in dialogue as far as when men were together, but even in the presence of ladies of the night, few victorian gentlemen of the day would talk like that. EC<:-}