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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (238198)	7/29/2007 3:47:09 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Discrimination means looking closely, examining the details, taking things into account, making judgements.> I agree with this part of your post. In my judgement, Israel will indeed be destroyed in my lifetime. And when the historians of future generations ask "could it have been different"? I believe they will say yes, it could have been different. What you do in your posts is emphasize blame. You assume that is my agenda as well. But it is not. Israel is going to be destroyed. Those who today so stridently say they are defending Israel are in your camp, pointing a finger full of anger and declaring Israel "justified" to do what it sees as necessary for security. Some who are less directly emotionally engaged look at what Israel is doing and believe that Israel is fooling itself with its current policies -- fooling itself that it can defend itself forever without seeking and obtaining both peace and security. Time is not on the side of Israel. You think you defend Israel -- but it seems to me that you are complacent about the future and too busy with your own self-reinforcing view of how others see it. In my case you dismiss me as "the Left". You can do as you please, and you can always find an excuse to ignore the views of others, but in the end it is Israel that will pay the price. If it is not too late, seek peace.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (238198)	7/29/2007 4:08:16 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"When it comes to judging Israeli actions, the world is not objective. " Poor, put upon Israel! Hizbolla kidnaps three soldiers to counter the hundreds of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel and fires unguided fireworks explosives and Israel invades Lebanon and kills tens of thousands of Lebanese and destroys their entire country with US provided state-of-the-art cluster bombs. Poor Israel! Iran attempts to build ONE primitive nuke and Israel just can't HAVE that, despite having 200-400 nukes with various delivery systems, ICBM's, submarines and bombers. Poor Israel! The US decides to give Saudi Arabia 20 billion worth of arms (a HUGE dumbass move), and Israel feels threatend, despite the fact that the US is giving Israel 30 billion in arms (a HUGE dumbass move)! Supporting Israel is not in the national interest of the United States.