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To: GST who wrote (238218)	7/29/2007 8:46:27 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

". I don't dodge your question of different standards -- I say that you are wasting your breath. Israel is standing in the middle of the road and it is going to get run over -- it is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. The question is, what will Israel do to obtain peace? Ok, so you think the question of "objective" standards isn't central after all, but completely irrelevant. Thanks for that clarification. Acts are to be judged according to who commits them, not what they are. Gotcha. "Israel is standing in the middle of the road" - what, is Israel acting alone here? Or are you simply buying the idea that Arab leaders have the right to propagandize their people that all the faults of the Arab world belong to the Israelis (just as Hitler told the Germans that all the troubles of Germany were the fault of the Jews) and then watch them get run over, as an unstoppable act of nature? Oh, that's right, in the face of all the judgements of the world, Israel is supposed to do something to obtain peace. Leave or commit suicide, I suppose according to your metaphor - what else does one do if you find yourself in the middle of the road? Well you've made your position much clearer. You don't "blame" Israel but if every Israeli gets slaughtered, they will have only themselves to blame. They shouldn't be there. If the Arabs hate them, they must have good reason, and if not, who cares? I'm wasting my breath talking about fairness or objectivity of judgment. GST this is a very "realist" position and has more internal consistency than most of the positions you have offered. I think that is because you have abandoned nearly all pretense of morality.