SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Advanced Micro Devices - Moderated (AMD) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Joe NYC who wrote (237887)7/31/2007 9:56:42 PM
From: smooth2oRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
re: Intel pleaded no contest to the same charges 2-3 years ago in Japan, same charges were filed in EU and I believe same charges are investigated in Korea as well. It seems that the pattern is well established.

Better check your facts, Joe, there was no fault found.

re: Intel wants to use any tool (legal or illegal) to damage AMD business, and the Intel Anti-trust institute (or whatever) is about how to get away with it.

Intel doesn't need any tools except better products and better mfg as evidenced by the AMD -$1.2B loss this year so far.

re: Are you suggesting that OJ's lawyers should have argued that there are over 6 billion people OJ didn't murder?

Of course not, didn't you read my post? If illegality can be proved, Intel should be punished for only those sales where they violated laws, not all sales... Each sale is different since there are different sales personnel involved. Intel will establish the anti-trust training and say there are some renegade salespersons.

Smooth



To: Joe NYC who wrote (237887)8/1/2007 5:46:12 AM
From: FJBRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
RE:So you think that Intel asked any customer to keep their volume with Intel over 80% or so and offered incentives to do so, based on something AMD thinks happened and hasn't been able to get anyone to verify.

First there is this.

Dell faces investor lawsuit over Intel pact

By Martha Graybow and Michele Gershberg
Reuters
Friday, February 2, 2007; 1:44 PM

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A new investor lawsuit against Dell Inc. accuses the computer maker of improperly accounting for hundreds of millions of dollars in payments from long-time partner Intel Corp., a plaintiffs' attorney said on Friday.

The lawsuit accuses Dell of artificially inflating profits "by secretly receiving approximately $250 million a quarter in likely illegal rebate kickbacks payments" from Intel in return for an exclusive deal to purchase Intel's microprocessors, class-action lawyer William Lerach told Reuters.
washingtonpost.com


Secondly, as you stated there is the Japanese ruling.

Third, the AMD/Intel antitrust case is still in discovery. AMD lawyers are poring over the millions of emails/documents from Intel and all the big OEMs. We should know exactly how verifiable everything is once the trial starts, IF there is no settlement first.

Fourth, Intel LOST a huge amount of emails that might have verified the accusations of their pricing schemes.

There is probably a whole lot more...