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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (345329)8/2/2007 3:23:54 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571455
 
The whole idea sounds totally Islamic, not Christian, to me.

There is one huge difference. In Islamic cultures, it's usually the woman who is blamed when a man sins sexually.

Christian men are responsible for their own actions. The Bible says that God will never allow a believer to be tempted beyond what he (or she) can handle.


The assignment of blame and responsibility for the sinful thought may be different, but that's not what I'm talking about. The logical extention of your understanding of this topic is for married women to wear asexual clothing in public, as they do in Muslim countries, and as they do not in Christian countries.

If (as I understand your interpretation) merely thinking about adultery is sinful, it would seem a good Christian action for both men and women to avoid things which create adulterous thoughts, no? The less sexually appealing married women appear, the better, since the adulterous thought is then less like to be generated. So.....based on your understanding, wouldn't all good married Christian women wear burkas when outside their home so as to avoid generating adulterous thoughts amongst the male population?

Based on your understanding, how can a good married beautiful Christian woman ever wear a bikini at a public pool when she realizes that is likely to create sin in the minds of many of the (straight) men at the pool?



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (345329)8/2/2007 3:42:03 AM
From: Elroy  Respond to of 1571455
 
And then there are these Muslims.......

Death by fire probe hints at dancers locked up in flat
By Ashfaq Ahmed, Staff Reporter
Published: August 02, 2007, 00:33

gulfnews.com

Dubai: Police are investigating whether the door of a flat where a club dancer died when a fire broke out on Monday night was locked.

Aaina Malek, a Pakistani dancer, died in the apartment when the fire broke out as she could not escape. Another girl, Lucky, who was also trapped in the fire, was rescued by neighbours after they broke the door open.

"We are investigating the case," said a senior police official.

He said that locking people up is a criminal offence and legal action can be taken against them.

The death of Aaina could have been averted if the flat had not been locked, said witnesses.

Two Pakistani girls, Aaina and Lucky (their stage names), were trapped and could not escape the flames because they did not have the key, Gulf News has learned.

Left behind for a rest

Aaina's original name was Sana'a Malek while Lucky's real name is Tahira Hajjab. Both are from Karachi.

Aaina was 19 and had been performing in Dubai for the last year and a half.

"While all the girls had been taken to perform in the club, both of them were supposed to join them later because they wanted to rest a bit after their flight for visa change on Monday evening," a close friend of the girls told Gulf News.

"They normally keep the girls, who perform in dance clubs, locked in their flats during the day for 'safety' reasons," said a dancer, who works at another club.

"It is quite common and the management of many Indian and Pakistani night-clubs follows the same practice.

"We are taken to clubs around 8pm and brought back to flats after 3am when the clubs close. We are not allowed to go anywhere. We are given food in the flat and we live like prisoners," she said.

Several girls and employees of other clubs also confirmed this.

When contacted, the management of the club refused to comment.


"We have given information to police. It is not our fault. Come with legal papers if you want information from us," one of the top managers told Gulf News. The same management runs similar clubs in some other hotels in Bur Dubai and Deira.

The dance club where Aaina performed was closed for the last two nights.

Kiran, a bar dancer at a Deira club, said that there had been many incidents when girls have fallen sick but could not get the much needed medical attention on time.

"Such an incident was expected. We are always scared because we cannot get out of flats during an emergency," she said.

There are more than 150 Asian dance clubs in Dubai where hundreds of girls perform every night. They are mainly brought from India, Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh.

They normally come on a three-month visit visa and their visas are renewed if their performance is appreciated by customers, otherwise they are sent back.

"They are paid hefty salaries and a good performer earns up to Dh8,000 to Dh15,000 per month apart from gifts from customers," said a manager of a night club.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (345329)8/2/2007 5:05:08 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 1571455
 
See what happens to Japan's Barbies-and-Kens as they grow older:

Leaves Falling in Japan:
Retired Husband Syndrome
By Barbara Lawrence


The unflattering terms many Japanese women use to describe their retired husbands, “Sodaigomi” or oversized garbage, and “nureochiba” or wet fallen leave (sic) (Star.com) serve as markers along our own road to retirement and suggest the need for alternative paths. For older Japanese, brought up to believe women were subservient to men, the husband’s retirement can be so difficult that experts estimate as many as 60% of wives of Japanese retirees suffer debilitating physical symptoms. These health problems, now known as “Retired Husband Syndrome” include stomach ulcers, slurring of speech, rashes around the eyes, growths in the throat, palpitations, tension headaches and depression (www.thestar.com) as well as “agitation, gas, bloating, muscle aches, and other symptoms of stress,” (Johnson, 1984, p. 542).

In 1991 Dr. Nobuo Kurokawa, a physician and leading Japanese expert on Retired Husband Syndrome (RHS) first named the syndrome. The illness has been particularly striking in Japan in part because of the differences in roles traditionally assigned to men and women, but also because Japan has the highest percentage of population in the world over 65 (Faiola, 2005, p. 1). Fully one-fifth of Japanese are now over 65, and between 2007 and 2009 almost seven million Japanese men are likely to retire. In Japan couples can expect to live for many years after retirement as the Japanese boast the longest lifespan on Earth. (Faiola, 2005, p.2). Yet 40% of wives of prospective retirees describe themselves as depressed by their husband’s imminent retirement.

RHS is exacerbated both by tradition and change. Traditional Japanese culture doesn't encourage people to talk openly about their problems; so many older women have few outlets through which to express their unhappiness. The next generation of Japanese, however, no longer expects parents to live with them so older couples spend more time with each other than they might have expected to in the past. Given this situation, symptoms of RHS are rising dramatically. Japanese television shows depict the drama of RHS (Japan-Guide.com), and the divorce rate of couples married for more than twenty years doubled between 1985 and 2000. In fact, the divorce rate of older couples is now the fastest growing of any cohort in the population.

Most men and women in Japan of the “Boomer” generation assumed that the man would work outside the home and that many of his activities and friendships would revolve around his work. As they and their careers matured, Japanese men would spend less and less time at home, and more time in work-related associations. Women, however, were expected and “trained” to expect that they would work for their husbands and children inside the home. Some women, before having children, may have established social and recreational ties outside their homes, but these weakened after they became mothers. As children grew up and left to establish their own homes, many older women in Japan again sought companionship and recreation with women friends, and nurtured these ties with energy and commitment. This activity outside their homes, however, rarely conflicted with caring for their husbands.

When Japanese men retire, they lose connection with people and activities, as well as with the primary source of approval and self-image that sustained them throughout their careers. A domain that may have included employees and opportunities for command suddenly evaporates and his home becomes the retiree’s castle. Like a king without a country, the retiree comes home to hold sway where he has previously not interfered. When husbands retire, the energy and assertiveness that served them well in the larger arena of work, is not likely to help them build a collegial relationship with their wives. Instead, too many Japanese men become demanding and intrude into the daily routines of housekeeping that their wives have perfected over decades, but not by helping with chores. Instead, they demand obedience, and become verbally and even physically abusive. As their self-esteem diminishes, these retirees may drink too much, and spend more and more time watching television. As they retreat into themselves, they may increasingly resent their wives’ ability to interact in a variety of relationships outside the house that includes shopkeepers, friends, and club mates.

RHS has been particularly striking in Japan, but Dr. Clifford Johnson, a psychologist in private practice in Boise, Idaho, writing in 1984, pointed out that a similar pattern of symptoms affected women in his practice whose husbands had retired. He wrote that few wives worked outside their homes and most sought their own sources of recreation and companionship while their husbands worked. Like Japanese wives, American homemakers gave up their outside recreation to care for children, but when children grew up and moved away, women again had time for activities and companionship outside their homes. When husbands retired, however, the quality of life for their wives deteriorated quickly. Johnson reports wives saying in desperation, “I’m going nuts,” ”I want to scream,” ”He is driving me crazy,” ”I’m nervous,” or ”I can’t sleep,” (Johnson, 1984, p. 542). Like Japanese retirees, American husbands forced themselves into places where their wives were used to having their own authority: the house, particularly the kitchen, and doing errands associated with housekeeping. When husbands took out their own feelings of loss by becoming depressed and insensitive or abusive, the relationship between the couple deteriorated to the point that the wife felt physically as well as emotionally and psychologically ill, and developed RHS.

The rapid escalation of RHS in Japan should inspire us to think about retirement in the United States. Though there are similarities between people in the same age group in Japan and in the United States, there are also significant differences. In the next six years, the number of workers who are older than fifty five is expected to escalate dramatically, but the US work force has one of the highest rates of participation by workers over sixty-five (Cohen, 2005, p. 139). In the US both men and women in the” Boomer” generation may have had fulfilling careers, so, as Abigail Trafford points out, it may be more accurate to label ”retirement malaise”; as “retired spouse syndrome or RSS,” (Trafford, 2005, p. 1).

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In addition, women and men age somewhat differently. Men become more inward; while women become more outward looking, ready to take on challenges on a broader plain. Men may for the first time in their lives, become interested in solving some of their personal psychological challenges, while women want to take on causes and contribute to more global change. There is some level of role reversal, or perhaps more accurately, role crossover. The unfinished business of each gender obviously differs as their previous roles led men and women to deal with different issues.

The situation in the US may be different than that of retirees in Japan, but there is still a lot to learn to improve relations between retired spouses. In Japan self-help books about retirement have been selling well. Groups have sprung up throughout the country to help wives of retirees as well as retired men themselves adapt to their new situations. While these strategies help, Cohen also suggests creating pre-retirement classes and points out that such classes, if they exist at all, focus almost exclusively on financial planning, whereas social planning and planning for a new division of work at home would help people adjust to new expectations. Activities like learning a new language and cross-country skiing create brain cells and connections between cells, as well as ideas and experiences to share with a spouse, which improves retirement for both members of the couple. Using the example of RHS in Japan and Cohen’s work as a guidebook to retirement may help all of us avoid some of the less attractive destinations along the way.

Selected References
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retirementjobs.com



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (345329)8/2/2007 5:19:40 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571455
 
Tenchu, why don't you just dump your Bible crap over to benighted Japanese? That is, after you're done with Mormon paedophiles, of course....(*)

Japanese Women Confront Domestic Violence

By Yukiko Tsunoda


Yukiko Tsunoda was a visiting research scholar at the University of Michigan Law School in 1995. She is also a practicing attorney in Japan, specializing in gender discrimination and domestic violence.

[...]

In Japan, domestic violence is so pervasive that it is considered a normal part of marriage, never recognized as a serious social problem, and lacking even an appropriate term in the Japanese language. Moreover, battered women have been deprived of any social institution where they can confront domestic violence.

In order to effectively combat domestic violence, we must closely examine why our society has ignored or denied this issue. The most important reason is that in Japan men and women are not equal socially, economically or politically, in both private and public life. This inequality reflects the strong patriarchal structure of the family and society as a whole. Once a woman marries, she becomes a member of her husband’s family. As a result, she is considered a possession of her husband, sometimes even a possession of her husband’s family. Many Japanese use the verbs of giving and obtaining when referring to a bride. Japanese courts and many major legal scholars support this concept of possession of a wife, affirming that marital rape is not a crime, or a rape at all, but simply the exercise of the legal power of a husband. This concept of possession has also been strengthened by the extremely precarious economic status of women, who typically earn half the income of men. This unequal status continues despite a constitution which clearly guarantees equality between the sexes.
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umich.edu

(*) Manhunt for the Mormon with 70 wives

By Chris Ayres in Los Angeles
Belfast Telegraph - Belfast, Ireland


He's a controversial cult leader in Arizona with a reputed 70 wives - and now he's a hunted man with a $10,000 reward on his head.

The search for Warren Jeffs, the 49-year-old self-proclaimed prophet and president of the 10,000-member Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, marks the first time that Arizona has offered a reward for information leading to the capture and arrest of a fugitive, and it could mark the end of America's long-tolerated polygamist sects.

The FBI is also searching for Mr Jeffs on a federal warrant for "unlawful flight to avoid prosecution".

Mr Jeffs vanished several months ago from his palatial home in Colorado City, a secretive polygamist community with a population of about 5,000 that straddles the Utah-Arizona border.

His church, which has had absolute control over the town, stands accused of forcing teenage girls to marry elders as rewards for loyalty, and of driving young men away from their homes and families to thin out the male population. Women are taught from infancy to be subservient or to suffer eternal damnation.
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childbrides.org