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To: Elroy who wrote (345383)	8/2/2007 5:38:12 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 1587267

Re: ...how can a good married beautiful Christian woman ever wear a bikini at a public pool when she realizes that is likely to create sin in the minds of many of the (straight) men at the pool? You mean like "gluttony"?() Issei Sagawa* From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Issei Sagawa [...] is a Japanese cannibal who is known for the murder of Renée Hartevelt. [...] Before the murder According to CrimeLibrary.com the book Cannibal Killers by Moira Martingale explains that Issei Sagawa was a brilliant student, obsessed with tall Western women and that while studying for an English literature degree at the University of Paris, he became attracted to a German woman teacher. He once said to British reporter Peter McGill that he wondered if he could eat her. The murder Issei Sagawa served time in a French jail for the murder of the Dutch Renée Hartevelt, a classmate at the Sorbonne Academy in Paris. In June 11, 1981, Sagawa was studying avant garde literature. He invited her to dinner under the pretense of literary conversation. Upon her arrival, he shot her in the neck, then began to carry out his plan of eating her. She was selected because of her health and beauty, those characteristics Sagawa believed he lacked. In interviews, Sagawa describes himself as a "weak, ugly and small man" and claims that he wanted to "absorb her energy." He said he fainted after the shock of shooting her, but awoke with the realization that he must carry out his desire to eat her. He did so, beginning with her hips. In interviews, he noted his surprise at the "corn-colored" nature of human fat. For two days, Sagawa ate various parts of her body. He described the meat as "soft" and "odorless", like tuna. After two days, he dumped the mutilated body in a park, but was seen in the act. Five days later, he was arrested by the French police. However, the French psychologists found him legally insane and unfit to stand trial. Instead, he was deported back to Japan, where he was put in a mental institution. However, the deportation order did not specify how long Sagawa must remain in the institution. Fifteen months later, Sagawa checked himself out, and has been a free man ever since. Free in Japan Sagawa now lives in Tokyo and is a minor celebrity in Japan. He is often invited as a guest speaker and commentator. He also writes restaurant reviews and in 1992 he appeared in Hisayasu Sato's film Sisenjiyou no Aria (The Bedroom) as a sadosexual voyeur. He admits to still having fantasies about cannibalism, but says he never wants to realize them again. Besides books about the murder he committed, Sagawa wrote a commentary book Shonen A in 1997 on the Kobe Children's Serial Murder of 1997, when a 14-year-old called "Youth A" ("Shonen A") killed and decapitated a child. His story inspired the 1981 Stranglers song "La Folie" and the 1983 Rolling Stones song "Too Much Blood". en.wikipedia.org () Is gluttony a sin? What does the Bible say about overeating?* gotquestions.org Pictures: iml.jou.ufl.edu

To: Elroy who wrote (345383)	8/2/2007 2:20:51 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1587267

Elroy, men can still lust after women in burkas and other "asexual clothing," especially if every woman dresses that way. Obviously women should be mindful of how they dress, but you're taking the argument to an extreme, as if men really can't help themselves, and God really does allow believers to be tempted beyond what they can handle. > Based on your understanding, how can a good married beautiful Christian woman ever wear a bikini at a public pool when she realizes that is likely to create sin in the minds of many of the (straight) men at the pool? Maybe she could wear a one-piece Speedo instead, but that won't make much of a difference in your mind. As long as the line between beauty and eroticism continues to be blurred, men will continue to believe that they can't help themselves. Tenchusatsu P.S. - Have you seen the movie American Beauty?