To: Geoff Altman who wrote (3043 ) 8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM From: Richnorth Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4152 Explosively formed penetrators or EFP which have been credited with claiming many American lives in Iraq is not a recent invention of the Iranians who have been accused of supplying them to the Iraqis to kill American personnel. As a matter of fact, EFP have been well-known since World War II. It is a relatively simple device not beyond the wherewithal of the Iraqis to make. According to Wikipedia:An explosively formed penetrator (EFP), also known as an explosively formed projectile, a self-forging warhead, or a self-forging fragment, is a special type of shaped charge designed to penetrate armour effectively at stand-off distances. They were first developed during WWII [1]. For more info, go toen.wikipedia.org ------------------------------------- IMNSHO, it seems that American propagandists would like us all to swallow hook, line and sinker that the EFP used in Iraq against American forces were manufactured and supplied entirely by Iran and therefore Iran has been responsible for killing Americans which means Iran will have a price to pay --- WAR. At present the US is stretched too thin to go war with Iran. However, if my info is correct, the US has already given Israel the greenlight to attack Iran. To be sure, as a Chinese sage once said, "We live in interesting and dangerous times." By the way, Rabbi Meir Kahane (the notorious Zionist racist who was fatally shot by a Syrian), and Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss and Rabbi Michael Weissmandel (both Hassidic Jews) and author Jack Bernstein (he was murdered by the Mossad) have predicted that Israel would collapse. If you want to know why, google them. Maybe Israel's collapse is pending or even imminent the next time it goes to war. But take heart if you believe in the Talmud; the Messiah shall return after the collapse to lead the faithful (definitely not the secular Zionists???!!!) to the Promised Land. .