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To: carranza2 who wrote (912)8/16/2007 9:25:08 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9129
 
Hey, you did see something many of us missed. And good luck to you as well. But as good as your move was, if the markets were to turn right here and you are on the outside waiting for the sky to fall (it may) and it never does, you lose in the end. What are your tentative bottoms on dow, sp, and naz when q is 15? Since i think q performance will be market driven in a bear so you are talking dow at approx 7500, naz at 1100, and sp at 800.



To: carranza2 who wrote (912)8/16/2007 9:25:40 AM
From: manalagi  Respond to of 9129
 
Fed move can't calm unease of investors

Herky-jerky market down over new lending concerns

By Madlen Read
ASSOCIATED PRESS

August 16, 2007

NEW YORK – Wall Street tumbled again yesterday after the Federal Reserve added more cash to the banking system, but failed to quash investors' jitters about problems in lending.

The market traded nervously, jerking the Dow Jones industrial average above and below the 13,000 mark throughout the day as investors wrestled with reports about potential trouble at Countrywide Financial Corp. and KKR Financial Holdings.

AdvertisementBy late in the day, investors saw little reason to buy beyond the fact that stocks are at bargain prices right now, and the Dow closed down nearly 170 points. The Standard & Poor's 500 index also dropped sharply, and is now down for the year.
Central banks worldwide have supplied billions of funds to banks over the past week to make cash available for lending and keep interest rates stable amid signs that credit was drying up. Yesterday, the Fed said it would accept a “repo” of $7 billion, in which it buys that amount in securities from dealers, who then deposit the money into commercial banks.

Still, the Fed has not indicated that it will free up more cash by making an interest rate cut at its Sept. 18 meeting, a move that many on Wall Street believe could stoke a stock recovery.

Inflation has been keeping the central bank from lowering rates; the Labor Department said its Consumer Price Index rose a mild 0.1 percent in July, as expected, but energy prices remain high.

“Yes, the market would probably move dramatically higher if they made a cut,” said Linda Duessel, market strategist at Federated Investors in Pittsburgh. “But I think it's more prudent to allow this 'correction' to continue to unfold.

“After all, we're in the month of August and coming into September – historically, the weakest months of the year. The market has been in need of a correction,” Duessel said.

A correction is defined as a 10 percent drop in stock prices. The Dow is now more than 8 percent below its record close of 14,000.41, reached July 19.

The Dow fell 167.45, or 1.29 percent, to 12,861.47, closing below 13,000 for the first time since April 24 and continuing a weeks-long pattern of triple-digit moves.

Broader stock indicators also fell. The S&P 500 index dropped 19.84, or 1.39 percent, to 1,406.70. The Nasdaq composite index lost 40.29, or 1.61 percent, to 2,458.83.

Bonds rose fractionally, moving in the opposite direction from stocks. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note was unchanged at 4.73 percent.

The Dow also rose as many as 90 points yesterday, as investors searched for bargains amid hard-hit stocks. The Chicago Board Options Exchange's volatility index reached another 4-year peak.

“The most savvy investors are seeing an opportunity with the increase in volatility. Individuals not as used to this are having trouble navigating through it,” said James Smothermon, Charles Schwab's active trading and investing strategist.

He said clients have been changing their strategies through tactics such as buying insurance on their portfolios and buying put options, or contracts that let an investor sell part of an asset at a set price within a certain time period.

Ultimately, investors sold off, focusing on the possibility of problems at lenders such as Countrywide Financial. Merrill Lynch issued a “sell” rating on the stock, kindling worries about the biggest U.S. home lender's ability to raise cash to secure short-term funds. Countrywide sunk $3.17, or 13 percent, to $21.19.

In another sign that lending woes are far from over, KKR Financial said it had sold about $5.1 billion in residential mortgage loans in a move that will result in a $40 million loss for the specialty finance firm. KKR fell $4.76, or 31 percent, to $10.52.

Crude futures rose 95 cents to $73.33 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, after momentarily surpassing $74.

The National Hurricane Center said Tropical Storm Dean, strengthening in the Caribbean and heading west, could be a major hurricane by today, while Tropical Storm Erin entered the Gulf of Mexico.

Natural gas retreated from an early spike, though, as traders bet the storms wouldn't threaten the region's facilities.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by 5 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where trading volume came to 4.31 billion shares, up from 3.72 billion shares Tuesday.

signonsandiego.com



To: carranza2 who wrote (912)8/19/2007 10:00:51 AM
From: limtex  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9129
 
carra - 29th August, 2007 - You are right about the damage that has beee done to shareholders and by whom.

And whatever we might think about it on these boards Rudi and presumably the magisistrate think that Q is guilty of everything he wrote about in his judgment including "deadly intent" and "hold to hostage" etc.

So three questions now remain and I would be grateful for your view:-

1. Have you ever seen or heard of anything before the non-criminal courts as bad as what is contained in Rudis judgement? If so what was the fine/condequences?

2. What is the biggest fine you have ever heard of in a non-criminal case? And what is the limit if any that can be imposed here?

3. Is there an appeal from the fine/judgment of Rudi and can it be heard to cover points of fact or findings or must it be confined to points of law? And what is the time period?

Best,

L