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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (9641)8/21/2007 1:10:28 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
The Apostate - Avraham Burg

newyorker.com

"In “Defeating Hitler,” Burg writes that one of the most dispiriting aspects of Israeli political conversation is the constant reference point of the slaughter of six million Jews in the nineteen-forties. “The most optimistic years in the state of Israel were 1945 to 1948,” he said to me. “The farther we got from the camps and the gas chambers, the more pessimistic we became and the more untrusting we became toward the world. It was a shock to me. Didn’t we, the politicians, feed the public? Didn’t we cheapen the sanctity of the Holocaust by using it about everything? Some people say, ‘Occupation? You call this occupation? This is nothing compared to the absolute evil of the Holocaust!’ And if it is nothing compared to the Holocaust then you can continue. And since nothing, thank God, is comparable to the ultimate trauma it legitimatizes many things.” Burg said that contemporary Israelis “are not at the stage to be sensitive enough to what happens to others and in many ways are too indifferent to the suffering of others. We confiscated, we monopolized, world suffering. We did not allow anybody else to call whatever suffering they have ‘holocaust’ or ‘genocide,’ be it Armenians, be it Kosovo, be it Darfur.

“In the last years, Israeliness has confined itself for itself only and lost interest almost for what happens in the world,” he went on. “For me, Israel is shrinking into its own shell rather than struggling for a better world. Who is responsible for identity? The ultraOrthodox. They sit in the yeshivot”—the religious schools. “Who is responsible for our fundamental relation to the soil? The settlers. The two tribes responsible for the spiritual dimension and the territorial dimension are anti-modern Israel."

"Burg warns that an increasingly large and ardent sector of Israeli society disdains political democracy. He describes the country in its current state as Holocaust-obsessed, militaristic, xenophobic, and, like Germany in the nineteen-thirties, vulnerable to an extremist minority."



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (9641)8/21/2007 5:54:36 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
"If all of Islam offends you this ought to make you nutz......"

He passed Nutz on the way to becoming a goofy bigot.

Not only that, his rant is becoming more and more anti-US Military (Estimated 15,000 to 20,000 Muslims in the military) and it is very Anti-American.

One of the best instances of this can be seen in an address given by the former Deputy Defense Secretary John Hamre at a dinner:

"I think that as Muslims and as Christians, we understand what it means to live under a world of authority-the authority that's been revealed to us by God…. We are partners and we are friends and we celebrate with our Islamic brothers and sisters tonight in this feast, and throughout the year. In an America that sometimes is too busy worrying about the latest fad in clothes, or the newest model of car or other material things, it is good to be with people who think in a broader way, who think about their relationship to God, who think about charity, alms giving, as one of the central mandates of life. This is a great thing. You're a great people to be with.

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Maj. James Ahearn , Muslim soldier killed in Iraq 7/10/07 Air Force Muslim

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Muslim woman proud of role as soldier
Marissa Yaremich, Register Staff
08/04/2005

WEST HAVEN — Leafing through her scrapbook from her tour in Iraq, National Guard Sgt. Tanya Abdul-Karim Williams admires the final entry: a photo showing Iraqi women enthusiastically holding signs after Saddam Hussein’s capture.

nhregister.com

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JAMAL S. BAADANI, Gunnery Sergeant, United States Marine Corps

Jamal S. Baadani is currently serving as the President and Founder of the Association of Patriotic Arab Americans in Military. Jamal Baadani came into the public activism scene on September 11th, 2001. He volunteered to represent and stand up for the Arab American community during those challenging days we faced as a people after 9/11. Jamal Baadani is a Gunnery Sergeant US Marine Reservist who has been honorably serving the United States since 1981. To promote a patriotic image of the Arab and Muslim American Communities, Jamal founded the Association of Patriotic Arab Americans in Military due to the backlash against Arab Americans and the backlash directed towards his family by Americans in response to the acts committed by the terrorists towards America on September 11th, 2001. Jamal established APAAM in an effort to organize current and former Arab Americans in the military. He has recruited hundreds of Arab Americans in the Military – to include General John Abizaid – for a common cause of promoting the patriotism of Arab Americans.

theamericanmuslim.org

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Col. Douglas Burpee Highest Ranking Muslim in the Marine Corps

Now in his 23rd year of military service, Colonel Burpee recently returned from flying helicopters in Afghanistan.

"Everyone knows I'm a Muslim. When I fly, attached to my dog tags, I wear a pendant with a passage from the Koran," he says. "I try to set a good example based upon what I believe.... I can be a soldier and a Muslim at the same time. I have no problem with that."

Out of the 1.4 million service men and women serving actively in the American military, an estimated 3,700 are Muslim, according to the Department of Defense.

nysun.com

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As American troops battle Islamic extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and try to bring stability to the region, here at home the Pentagon is reaching out to Arab and Muslim Americans, trying to interest them in joining the U.S. military. At least 15,000 Muslims, including about 3,500 Arab-Americans, are already in uniform. In fact, Arab-Americans have been fighting, and dying, for this country since 1776. The Pentagon regards Arab-Americans as especially valued members of the U.S. military because of their important language skills and their understanding of the cultures of the Middle East. The armed services make efforts to accommodate their religious needs on base, such as building Islamic prayer rooms and hiring Muslim chaplains. But many Arab American soldiers say, 5 years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, they still feel they need to prove both their worth as soldiers, and their loyalty to the United States.

apaam.org

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