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To: KLP who wrote (217110)8/26/2007 3:33:23 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794763
 
I agree- I don't read Huffington, but I don't read Weekly Standard either, unless their articles get posted here or on Center.

We are both old enough to remember clearly the Vietnam War; it was our brothers, our friends, even our fathers who fought.
I think that Americans were pretty open before Iraq that we hadn't the stomach for another Vietnam, and I also believe that we were told not to compare Iraq to it, and that this would be no Vietnam. The admin was either naive or stupid in its assumptions and lack of preparation, its failure to see the possibility of similarities. It may not have been, or be, admirable of us, but it was a fact. No 59K dead young people! We didn't want an extended, high casualty, budget breaking war. Now Bush is drawing the parallel himself, despite the constant denials to this point of any likeness, at least on this one issue-staying or leaving-, an issue we were not at all prepared to face, did not want to face, when we started.

Outside of the nuts like Reid, I am not so sure liberals see an immediate and total withdrawal as a decent option. I don't know that there IS a decent option. What I do think is that the admin has lost so much support for continuing, that the idea of making this about sticking it out as we did Vietnam for years and years (but not long enough!) is a manipulative move, almost last ditch. It hits the emotions and the guilt factor of what we caused when we left VN.

I don't know enough about Vietnam history to know at whom to point specifically and I am not sure it matters. I rather guess there is enough blame to go around the parties and politicians and then some from the couple of books I have read.

Does it clarify or further muddy the Iraq debate? Some seem happy to argue VN again; I am not so sure. UNderstanding is good, but reliving the partisan divide is not.