To: Wharf Rat who wrote (240011 ) 8/28/2007 2:47:16 AM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Wharfie, here is some information for you. bp.com It shows that oil consumption for the world was in 2006 83.7 million barrels per day. Going back year by year, 83, 81, 79, 78, 77, 76, 75, 74. As you can see, there was more used each year. That means that peak oil is not yet. Coal is booming! Nuclear is going critical. Wind and all sorts are coming on stream as the price of oil makes all sorts of things economic once again. Which means the price of oil will fall and people will produce it flat out since it is so profitable. 320ppm CO2 to 390ppm in half a century is not a huge increase. esrl.noaa.gov At the current increase of something like 10 ppm per decade, after another 100 years, we'd only get to 490 ppm, which is hardly enough to keep corn growing happily. It probably isn't enough to hold off the ice age. It's the least we should aim at. As I said, with Peak People, Peak Oil and possibly peak CO2 kicking in during 2037, we are more likely to be fleeing ice, which Mq's 1987 theory says arrives in a big hurry, over only 2 or 3 years, and tsunamis due to bolides, than tides rising a few centimetre over a century. As you say, reserves are estimates of what's in the ground. So let's stick with actual production and consumption, which are what matters. My point about reserves was simply that we aren't running out of stuff to burn any time soon. We are going to have to choose to not burn it, or decide to sequester it. We can't depend on it simply running out to solve the possible problem of eventually there being too much CO2 in the air. Mq's invention of liquid CO2 on the bottom of the ocean is an excellent way of storing it, while generating electricity with it as it falls down the pipes. My invention predated Mitsubishi's patent for the same process so I claim the invention. I guess you understand that 100 years from now, things will be very different and fashions to worry about will have moved on a long way. Look at changes over the last 100 years and we should expect even faster changes. Mqurice