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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240199)	8/28/2007 6:05:41 PM
From: SARMAN	Respond to of 281500

Let say for the sake of argument I agree with you. Why doesn't Israel, recognize Palestine as it is internationally recognized with East Jerusalem as the capital. If Nadine can not answer that question, can anyone else?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240199)	8/28/2007 6:27:08 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

So like most Isreali Jews you reduce it to, look we had a war and we won, so we get to keep what we won, now get over it... or something along those lines. Hey, I am American and that is practically the story of our claim to ownership. Not a big deal. Your recollection is not too bad but I know their is another way to describe all that from the Pal's point of view and frankly I can't relate to either of you more than how iI understand worldly competition for power, realestate, and influence which can be pretty raw. The religious conflicts are an issue but I am convinced they would be resolvable in the blink of an eye if worldly issues weren't blinding us to those resolutions, which they always will. The only issue I have with you is attacking religion instead of the corrupt perps who use/abuse religion for self serving purposes. I'm not sure you even get that.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240199)	8/29/2007 2:39:03 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Generally speaking, a dhimmi's lot is not a happy one and basically he has only those rights that the local ruler gives him. 1. Isn't the same thing true for the non-Jewish citizens of Israel today? They are only allowed the rights that the local rulers give them? You probably know the current rules better than me, but aren't non-Jews not allowed in the military, have restrictions on citizenship for their non-Israeli, non-Jewish wives, and other various limitations, which are determined by the current "local ruler". 2. I live in a "Muslim country", ruled by Muslims, and I'm not Muslim. It's fine. I don't pay any dhimmi tax, or any tax at all other than restaurant/hotel tax and alcohol consumption tax. I certainly don't pay any tax that Muslims don't pay. Haven't been to a Muslim court for any disputes with Muslims yet, so stay out of court, and things are pretty good.