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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240240)	8/29/2007 5:31:07 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 281500

(Question: have you seen any maps of the Middle East whre you live? What do they say for Israel?) I haven't seen a map of much of anything here other than the local shopping mall. In general they don't have any stores called Israel. In fact, I think they have a ban on stuff made in Israel. But...I'm flying Etihad Airways (Abu Dhabi carrier) in a week or so, I'll check one of the inflight magazines if I remember. That's interesting - I wonder if the international airline carriers have Israel on the map? The curses heaped on the Jews as the sons of apes and pigs are heaped on Jews not Israelis. Is this some form of Vermont witchcraft, because I'm not familiar with it. You should try to be a bit less anti-Jewish in your spell casting, it's really not kosher these days. When you fight a tribe, you fight a tribe, Elroy. It happens that way naturally because one part of the tribe supports the other part. The tribe is called "the Jews" not "the Israelis". Uhmmm, no, it doesn't work like that. For example, tribe A in Iraq fighting tribe B in Iraq are not full of hate for the member of tribe B that immigrated to the USA 20 years ago. tribe A, in fact, couldn't give a hoot about that member of tribe B, as he speaks English, lives in the USA, and will in a generation or two have produced an integrated non-tribal American. As far as I can tell the enemies of Israel hate the Zionist and Israelis, not the Jew that lives in Los Angeles and has nothing to do with Israel. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240240)	8/29/2007 9:35:54 AM
From: SARMAN	Respond to of 281500

The curses heaped on the Jews as the sons of apes and pigs are heaped on Jews not Israelis. Well of course, you as an American Jew do not make the distinction between Israelis and the rest of Jews in the world so why should they? Edit: The Palestinians were kicked out of their homes and land and were told that the Jews were taking over before the creation of the country call Israel. The first European Jews that migrated to the ME, did not migrate to Israel, they migrated to Palestine. So if your beautiful brain of yours can put 2 and 2 together, you can understand when they talk about Jews, they mean the Jews that settled in Palestine that turned into Israel. However, since you are a Zionist, you exploit the meaning or translation and play on the west sympathy for the Jews by saying "look they want to kill the Jews" and not explaining what the Palestinians mean Jews. Since you are smart woman/man what would a Palestinian want from an American Jew? Your hatred to the Palestinian/Arab/Muslims makes a bigot. One more thing, why aren't living in Israel?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240240)	8/29/2007 9:44:00 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Wait a sec. If israel did not exist, do you think the middle east muslims would hate jews more than they would hate christians? Israel is there and rightfully so, but they are the arabs enemy and are backed by jews around the world. So arabs hate jews. But bin laden has widened that scope as havae the iranians. Jews are a lightening rod for them but christianity is the real target at least of bin laden. Do Israelis just dislike gazans or westbankers now or is there general anti-arab feeling there. Calling someone a son of a pig or whatever is no worse than using your mother curses here.