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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (241309)	9/7/2007 9:40:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Has it occurred to you that this is his goal? RNC has done more for OBL than he could have ever dreamed. Why would he want them lose control? Because victory is soooo much easier when the other side won't fight and thinks it deserves to lose! Go read the transcript of OBL's latest talk: msnbcmedia.msn.com Most of the arguments are pulled straight out of Daily Kos and Z Magazine. Against capitalism, corporations, global warming, even real estate debt! OBL even plugs Scheuer's book! OBL is trying to persuade the audience he knows is most receptive to him to make America lose the war. OBL knows for certain sure that AQI is getting its ass handed to it inside Iraq. His only hope is to make America quit, so he's using the arguments of the hard left to persuade the hard left. He's not even talking to swing voters or Republicans. Osama bin Laden has been spending too much time surfing the Daily Kos.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (241309)	9/7/2007 9:46:51 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 281500

RNC has done more for OBL than he could have ever dreamed. How long have you suffered delusions?

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (241309)	9/9/2007 10:52:04 PM
From: steve dietrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Have you read about the Homeland security hot shot baiting Bin Laden by calling him impotent? The Republicans are desperate for 9/11--The Sequel, knowing it's the only possibility to maybe getting back into control.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (241309)	9/12/2007 9:34:12 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 281500

If you think it is just about OBL, you are living in Fantasyland. If not fought, this is coming to a town near you: *Kadyrov said women were the root of all crime committed in Chechnya because they were inviting men to have sex with them.* Russia's Chechnya imposes Islamic dress code reuters.com ^ \| Sep 12, 2007 in.reuters.com GROZNY, Russia (Reuters) - Female civil servants must wear Islamic headscarves or be fired, the maverick head of Russia's Chechnya region said on Tuesday, an edict that may put him at odds with his secular masters in Moscow. The Kremlin installed 30-year-old Ramzan Kadyrov as Chechnya's president to crush a decade-old separatist insurgency, but some observers say he has turned the region into a private fiefdom where Russian laws are flouted. Russian law separates the state from religion and gives both sexes equal rights. But Kadyrov, who this year made a pilgrimage to Muslim holy sites in ultra-conservative Saudi Arabia, said Chechnya had different traditions. "I know everyone will say, 'Ramzan declares (rigid Islamic) sharia law'. But I reply that I am a Muslim, I respect Chechen traditions, and I am proud of this," Kadyrov, son of a Muslim cleric, told a meeting of local officials. "I repeat once again -- women must either wear headscarves, or they should not work (for state institutions)," he said. "You may say I make unlawful statements, but I will not back down." Kadyrov said he had been "literally shocked seeing our young women walking around in T-shirts and miniskirts in our city (Chechen capital Grozny)". A keen amateur boxer who kept a lion as a pet, Kadyrov said women were the root of all crime committed in Chechnya because they were inviting men to have sex with them. Families often declare blood feuds on men they believed have dishonoured their daughters, and in some cases they also kill their daughter for bringing shame on the family. "This only complicates the work of the police," Kadyrov said. Kadyrov's hardline policies and the cult of personality he has built around himself make many Russian officials uneasy, but they are unlikely to take any action against him. Russian President Vladimir Putin came to office seven years ago pledging to defeat Chechen separatists and he personally awarded Kadyrov Russia's highest honour for his work in stamping out the insurgency. Analysts say that for Putin, who is to step down next year, turning on his protege Kadyrov over his unorthodox policies would mean losing face.