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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (241529)9/11/2007 1:28:21 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Statistics the Weapon of Choice in Surge Debate
by Guy Raz
NPR

“People are making claims and assertions that don't stack up when they are viewed in the context of the last four years.”

former Army Col. Doug MacGregor

Morning Edition, September 6, 2007 · As Congress prepares to hear testimony from Gen. Petraeus on the situation in Iraq, the White House and Pentagon have been pointing to several statistics that they say show progress as a result of the surge. Some military experts, however, say those numbers only tell part of the story.

Sometime around February 2004, a top military official in Iraq estimated that there were about 15,000 total insurgents. About a year later, U.S. military leaders in Iraq announced that 15,000 insurgents had been killed or captured in the previous year.

In private, a skeptical military adviser pointed out to commanders that the numbers didn't make sense. "If all the insurgents were killed," he asked, "why are they fighting harder than ever?"

The adviser, who couldn't speak on the record, recounted the story as an example of how statistics can easily become misleading.

Here's a few statistics that military officials have cited in the past few days.

From Gen. Richard Sherlock: "Overall violence in Iraq has continued to decline and is at the lowest level since June 2006."

From Gen. Kevin Bergner: "On a national level, sectarian deaths are about half of what they where in December of 2006."

And from Gen. Ray Odierno: "Total attacks are on a monthlong decline and are at their lowest levels since August of 2006."

And here's how those statistic translate into political rhetoric.

From South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham: "Well, the surge has worked; it's provided a level of security I haven't seen."

And from President Bush: "Anbar is a huge province. It was written off as lost. It is now one of the safest places in Iraq."

But other numbers tell a different story.

This year, Anbar is actually the second-deadliest place for U.S. troops in Iraq. Baghdad is the deadliest.

And while there's no doubt the numbers of troops killed in Anbar this year is lower than last year, troop casualties have spiked dramatically in other provinces.

Twenty American service members were killed in Diyala Province last year. So far this year, 100 U.S. service members have died in Diyala. Every month this year, more American troops have been killed as compared with the same month last year.

Pentagon officials argue that numbers like these are meaningless, that they don't give a sense of success. The problem, though, says former Army Col. Doug MacGregor, is that the Pentagon uses statistics selectively to bolster the case for success.

"People are making claims and assertions that don't stack up when they are viewed in the context of the last four years," MacGregor says.

Here's an example: The Pentagon says sectarian deaths in Iraq were sharply down in August. But the military's definition of what constitutes a sectarian murder is narrow.

Last month's massive bombing in northern Iraq that killed more than 500 ethnic Yezidis made August 2007 the second-deadliest for Iraqi civilians. Yet the Pentagon doesn't consider large bombings like that one an example of sectarian violence. The result is that it can show that sectarian murders are down.

"What we have right now is an illusion created by the White House, created unfortunately with the help of many people in the media," MacGregor says. "And the result is, people pick up on what is said [and] it becomes conventional wisdom."

The military measures stability in Iraq by looking at total attacks daily — attacks on U.S. troops, Iraqi forces and Iraqi civilians. The Pentagon says total daily attacks are now at a one-year low. But last year was the deadliest for Iraqis since the invasion, so the comparison, says retired Army Col. Paul Hughes, is somewhat misleading.

"Even with the security that's improved in the Baghdad region," Hughes says, "they are still not getting the electricity and the water that city's citizens need."

Before the war, Baghdad had round-the-clock electricity. Today, more than four years since the invasion, the city averages about six hours of electricity a day.

And then there's the issue of Anbar province. Both the White House and the Pentagon have attributed the changes in Anbar to the surge strategy. But several military advisers who worked in Iraq until late last year have said that is simply not true. MacGregor says that the increasing cooperation between U.S. forces and Sunni tribes in Anbar started more than 18 months ago, long before the "surge."

"And they were done on the initiative of the Marines and the Navy who looked at Anbar and said, "There's gotta be a better way to do business here," he says.

So is the surge working? The short answer is that no one can know for certain because statistics only tell a small part of the story.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (241529)9/11/2007 1:31:11 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 281500
 
Playing The Numbers
by hilzoy
September 07, 2007
obsidianwings.blogs.com
[EDIT: links are in the original.]

From the Washington Post:

"The U.S. military's claim that violence has decreased sharply in Iraq in recent months has come under scrutiny from many experts within and outside the government, who contend that some of the underlying statistics are questionable and selectively ignore negative trends.

Reductions in violence form the centerpiece of the Bush administration's claim that its war strategy is working. In congressional testimony Monday, Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, is expected to cite a 75 percent decrease in sectarian attacks. According to senior U.S. military officials in Baghdad, overall attacks in Iraq were down to 960 a week in August, compared with 1,700 a week in June, and civilian casualties had fallen 17 percent between December 2006 and last month. Unofficial Iraqi figures show a similar decrease.

Others who have looked at the full range of U.S. government statistics on violence, however, accuse the military of cherry-picking positive indicators and caution that the numbers -- most of which are classified -- are often confusing and contradictory. "Let's just say that there are several different sources within the administration on violence, and those sources do not agree," Comptroller General David Walker told Congress on Tuesday in releasing a new Government Accountability Office report on Iraq.

Senior U.S. officers in Baghdad disputed the accuracy and conclusions of the largely negative GAO report, which they said had adopted a flawed counting methodology used by the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency. Many of those conclusions were also reflected in last month's pessimistic National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq.

The intelligence community has its own problems with military calculations. Intelligence analysts computing aggregate levels of violence against civilians for the NIE puzzled over how the military designated attacks as combat, sectarian or criminal, according to one senior intelligence official in Washington. "If a bullet went through the back of the head, it's sectarian," the official said. "If it went through the front, it's criminal.""


Here are some of the things we know about these statistics: they don't include Sunni-on-Sunni violence, or Shi'a-on-Shi'a violence. They don't include car bombings. There are unexplained changes in the figures from one report to the next. They don't seem to take seasonality into account.

More discussion below the fold.

The reason for not including car bombings is just ludicrous:


"Car bombs and other explosive devices have killed thousands of Iraqis in the past three years, but the administration doesn't include them in the casualty counts it has been citing as evidence that the surge of additional U.S. forces is beginning to defuse tensions between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

President Bush explained why in a television interview on Tuesday. "If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory," he told TV interviewer Charlie Rose."

Gosh. By the same logic, why include any deaths at all among the civilian casualty numbers? After all, people who kill people are often bad guys, and who wants to hand any bad guys a victory?

The reason for not including Sunni-on-Sunni or Shi'a-on-Shi'a violence involves a much deeper mistake.

Cast your minds back a few years. Back then, a lot of people thought that the only people we had to worry about were the insurgents. The growth of Shi'a militias -- well, that wasn't really a problem. (There are some pretty amazing quotes to this effect in this article by Spencer Ackerman, which I provide some excerpts from here.) We characterized the problem too narrowly: as I wrote back then, "The insurgency is the militia (or: group of militias) that's dangerous to our troops. All the militias are dangerous to Iraq." But we focussed only on the insurgency; as a result, we missed the chance to try to deal with the militias when they were much, much weaker.

Now, we're doing it again. The danger we should be worried about, it seems to me, is a civil war. One form that a civil war might take is: Sunnis fighting Shi'a. But that is not the only possibility. It's not even the only actuality. In Basra and large areas of the south, Shi'a are fighting Shi'a for control. The recent fighting in Karbala was Shi'a on Shi'a. If we do not focus on this, we'll be making the same mistake we made before: defining the problem too narrowly, and waking up one morning to realize that the part of the problem we were ignoring has become the main event. That being the case, to define the relevant set of casualty statistics to exclude Sunni-on-Sunni or Shi'a-on-Shi'a violence is to make a profound mistake.

There are various lists of articles trying to measure the actual casualty figures, or questioning the government figures. See, for instance, here, here, and here. But there is an easy way to resolve these issues. If the government were to release its figures, and explain the methodology behind them, then it would be clear whether they had been cherry-picked or not. The National Security Network has written to request this:


"We write to respectfully suggest inquiry and attention into the exact nature and methodology that is being used to track the security situation in Iraq and specifically the assertions that sectarian violence is down. Not only is accurate reporting the key to sound policy, it is also the responsibility of government to those who have lost loved ones to this horrific conflict.

Furthermore, in order to make good policy going forward, it is imperative to American policy makers, Iraqi government officials, and the American people to have an accurate understanding of the impact of the President’s “surge” on Iraq’s civil war and the civilian population. Accurate portrayal of the scope of sectarian violence in Iraq is critical to making a complete assessment of the President’s escalation strategy, designed to provide space for political resolution to sectarian disputes. It is imperative that these statistics are accurately reported—and reported soon—as the Congress evaluates the White House’s September 15th report and the future of the US engagement in Iraq.

We owe it to the Iraqis, and to ourselves, to have as full accounting as possible."


They're right. Explaining the methodology behind their numbers is obviously the best way for the administration either to put these sorts of doubts to rest once and for all, or else to prove that they are well-founded. And yet, strange to say, I am not holding my breath.

Posted by hilzoy at 01:04 AM in Iraq and Terrorism | Permalink



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (241529)9/11/2007 1:32:43 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
A masterful con job

A couple of days ago, the NYT reported that the White House "is growing more confident that it can beat back efforts by Congressional Democrats to shift course in Iraq." It's not because conditions in Iraq have improved, and it's not because the president's policy is producing results, but because the administration has "a sense the dynamic has changed."

It's all about some amorphous "sense" that's entirely independent of reality. Consider what we've learned this week. The GAO prepared a "strikingly negative" assessment of conditions on the ground, with no political progress (the intended point of the "surge") and little evidence of reduced violence. Of the 18 Iraqi benchmarks, Bush's policy has come up short on 15. An independent federal commission believes Iraq's 26,000-member national police force is beyond repair and might need to be disbanded altogether. A working draft of a secret document prepared by the U.S. embassy in Baghdad shows that the Maliki government is rotten to the core. Iraqi civilian deaths are getting worse, not better. The latest data shows U.S. troop fatalities worse every month this year compared to the same months last year. A smidgeon of evidence pointing to at least marginal political progress late last week turned out to be smoke and mirrors.

It's against this backdrop that the White House and its conservative allies boast, "See? This is the progress we've been waiting for." More importantly, the conventional wisdom in DC is suddenly in agreement that they're right.

How on earth is this happening? Kevin Drum explains that Gen. David Petraeus has run a methodical political campaign that has produced exactly the desired effect.

[Petraeus is] keenly aware of the value of both the media and public opinion, and he did what any counterinsurgency expert would have counseled in his circumstances: he unleashed a hearts-and-minds campaign aimed at opinion makers and politicians. For months the military transports to Baghdad have been stuffed with analysts and congress members, and every one of them has gotten a full court press of carefully planned and scripted presentations, tightly controlled visits to favored units, and assorted dollops of "classified" information designed to flatter his guests and substantiate his rosy assessments without the inconvenience of having to defend them in public.

And it's worked.... Five months ago Petraeus was guaranteeing to wavering Republicans that they'd see progress in August, precisely the month when the PR campaign was scheduled to go into high gear. Today he's issuing dire warnings about al-Qaeda hegemony and nine-dollar gas if we leave, circulating bio pages that let his staff know whether they're dealing with friend or foe among visiting congress members, and insisting repeatedly that violence is down in classified briefings where he doesn't have to publicly defend his figures.

If these don't sound like the actions of an honest broker to you, they don't to me either. They sound like elements of a campaign with one overriding purpose: to convince politicians and opinion makers that we're making progress in Iraq regardless of whether we are or not.

As con jobs go, this is a masterful one.

--Steve Benen

talkingpointsmemo.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (241529)9/11/2007 2:26:38 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
We've been there going on SIX YEARS Nadine. NO ONE in America signed on to THAT. We've been "turning corners" ALL THAT TIME.

No one believes anything the war party or their credibility whores have to say. Petraeus is just the contemporary Colin Powell.