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To: tejek who wrote (352186)	9/27/2007 1:25:45 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574007

We're "arbitrary" because we don't want countries invaded, shipping shut down, and madmen with nukes? So be it. Pullleaze........I am not buying that spin so what makes you think the rest of the world is. Its not spin that Saddam invaded two neighboring countries. Its fact. Its not spin that Iran tried to shut down shipping during the Iran-Iraq war. And its not spin that Iran is ruled by medieval theocratic madmen and is developing nuclear weapons. Apparently you approve of all these things and think we should acopt a policy of weak appeasement toward them. Nuts. The last thing this world needs is the neocon's bullheaded machismo. What you guys call appeasement, the rest of the world considers to be good foreign dimplomacy. You're wrong to say the rest of the world wants America to appease regimes like Iraq's and Iran's. Much of the world is counting on us doing the dirty work of preventing them from messing things up. -------------------------------- They defended themselves by forming a country and army (which was illegal during the British mandate btw) which you would have wanted to prevent leaving them free to be massacred. So then you admit they were not defenseless....so you made the statement up above hoping that I would not know they could have defended themselves, didn't you. The point you're missing is they were able to defend themselves because things didn't happen as you wished. Had there not been a state and army but just unarmed civilians, they would have been slaughtered when the Brits pulled out. ------------------------------- But we didn't invade to steal any oil or get anything surreptiously. There are ways of taking another country's commodity without outright stealing. Yes, buy it on an open market. Which is what we do, contrary to leftist propaganda. Yes, the fear Saddam would develop nukes was real. Pollack, a Clinton era CIA guy, said Saddam would develop them soon. Its what convinced me to support the war. If that was the fear, why didn't Bush let the weapons inspectors do their job? Because they'd been trying unsuccessfully to do their job for 12 years. If he was sure Saddam was into the nukes, why did Bush announce they Saddam had bought yellow cake uranium when both American and Brit. intel told him it was bogus? Bush didn't announce Saddam had bought yellow cake, he said they'd tried to buy it. Which was true - unless you think the Iraqi trade delegation to Niger was after more dates and camels. In fact, Bush and Cheney worked very hard to convince a reluctant America to go to war. So did the Clinton administraton. So did Kenneth Pollack, who'd worked in that administration. Not to mention "Slam Dunk" George Tenet. ---------------------------------- BDS and Blame-America-Firstism aren't principles and values. You think Osama, al Qaida, and Ahmadinejad have valid greivances against the US and are merely defending against America's evil aggression. You are full of it. You think by making such ridiculous accusations that you have some kind of moral authority over me. Well you don't......so stop making sh!t up. Just drawing reasonable conclusions from your positiions. On the contrary, you are taking on one of the favored tactics of the right.....if you are not willing to bomb the hell out of a country, then you must be with the enemyl. Sorry, Brumar, those tactics no longer work. What phony tactics. You have said Osama and al Qaida have legitimate greivances against us and attacked us because we were in the wrong.