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To: Elroy who wrote (243663)	10/1/2007 4:10:48 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I have not been reading all of the posts on FADG for quite a while, the volume of posts is high and there is a lot of nonsense being posted between the insults. So I hoped to get a measure of where you were coming from. "rebuilding a government from scratch with an army that can't speak the local language is a bit crazy, if not a near impossible job." I am not sure there is ever a good time to liberate a country from a tyrannical dictator. After having a generation in control and brutalizing the people Hussein had whipped the free will out of most of the populous. I don't believe that they were going to get freer or braver by extending his tyrannical dictatorship, and you probably don't either. It appears to be true that some of the Whitehouse advisors under estimated the requirements for policing the country after a power vacuum and Hussein freeing all of the prisoners including the violent ones. The decision for total deBaathification certainly removed potentially effective people from being allied and turned some of them into enemies.

To: Elroy who wrote (243663)	10/1/2007 4:16:48 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Come on, you've got to admit the idea of rebuilding a government from scratch with an army that can't speak the local language is a bit crazy, if not a near impossible job." Its not only 'near impossible', its not even the case or ever could be the case that an invading army would build an autonomous government for another culture. We have some responsibility for supporting their security forces until they are able to stand on their own and some responsibility for supporting the infrastructure; but the USA does not have any responsibility for rebuilding the Iraqi government. It is an insult to Iraqis for anyone to think they are not a self determining and autonomous people. If you want to guarantee the failure of our current mission, go tell Iraqis, 'they are not rebuilding their government, we are.' Their squabbling about how they will work things out is not of our making nor is it our responsibility to resolve every issue for them.