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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Doug R who wrote (16628)	10/5/2007 5:22:29 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Doug > I think you mean that it appears to you...or is being engineered to appear to you.. Yes, I can only see the world as I see it. And there are some others who see it that way too. But that's not the point of my argument. I would argue the way I do if I was the only one who saw things the way I see them. > The same people were also involved in EVERY mess in South America. You don't KNOW that as a fact, you merely surmise it -- it suits the view that you have. > You wouldn't use that fact as a "reason" I'm saying I accept that capitalism/globalism is a very important motive but this time it was different. Indeed, it is highly likely that many of the corporations which are concerned with capitalism/globalism are also behind AIPAC and Zionism. > These people don't think in terms of National sovereignty. They're globalists. They control the multi-national corporations, the World Bank, the IMF the BIS and through them they steer governments. Of course, I accept that but it happens that Iraq and Afghanistan were chosen to be smashed up and not Israel. That wasn't fortuitous, it's what they want. They identify Israel's interests as their own -- and they are concerned about Israel's problems. They certainly do not identify with Islam or the Palestinians -- and there are one and a half billion Muslims (one quarter of the world's population), many of them extremely wealthy. Indeed, they don't give a damn about 3 million displaced Iraqis or one million displaced Palestinians or about how many Muslims they kill. > Israel (and all other countries tied into the globalized economic infrastucture) is just a vehicle for them not a real cause of anything in and of itself. I contend it's far more than that -- the state of Israel isn't just any piece of land which has been given that name. It is of great symbolic importance to those who are behind the capitalist/globalist agenda particularly in this instance. And that symbolism is because religion is also one of their areas of control. Although they may profess there is, and they do, this is not because there is any divine or spiritual purpose in their agenda. On the contrary, they use religion as a means to achieve their nefarious end which, as you see it, is a One World government, and as I am trying to argue, is the establishment of the state of Israel as the dominant nation in the hegemony of nations in the Mid East. So, in general terms, our positions in the argument are not really all that different but, specifically, I stress the importance of the state of Israel to the capitalists/globalists and you do not.