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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109458)	10/6/2007 1:29:22 PM
From: S. maltophilia	Respond to of 132070

See how many y'all recognize: Presented by the Federal Election Commission Individuals Who Gave To: PAUL, RON Sorted By Transaction Type Then Last Name Committee(s) Used In This Query: RON PAUL 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE The query you have chosen matched 2236 individual contributions. Due to the large number of records it is recommended that you choose a group of letters that correspond to the last name of the individual whose contribution you are searching for. A-E F-J K-O P-T U-Z TRY A: NEW QUERY RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE query.nictusa.com

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109458)	10/7/2007 10:03:07 AM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

KT, I don't see how we can prove this. Virtually every libertarian on the planet that made a political donation made it to Ron Paul. That much we can be certain of. Who else could they possible give to and when in recent history have they ever been more energized? Many republicans that are anti-war and anti recent federal spending by Bush etc.. (and there ARE many of them) also may have made a contributions to Ron Paul (I have republican friends in NY that have. I am a registered republican even though I consider myself libertarian). If there are democrats donating, some may be donating specifically to try to upset the republican primary process. Others may be people that are donating to both sides. But no one that is a traditional democrat that is also anti-war could possibly be pro-Ron Paul. He wants to dismantle everything they stand for. I can't argue with what you are seeing near your district, but let's use some common sense here. Ron Paul is the candidate furthest to the right on all economic/monetary matters. He's also anti-abortion. The only appeal he has to the left is that he's anti-war and strongly in favor of civil liberties (a place that libertarians and the left share) But the typical democrat doesn't need Ron Paul to find that and would find the rest of him way too extreme.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109458)	10/7/2007 10:36:48 AM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

KT, >Let's see if I've got this straight. Bush lied to us, so you hate the people who were suckered, but support those who helped him get his lies across? It wasn't just neocons. It < I dislike the people that lied to us, but think they had/have a good understanding of the issues and risks then and now. I strongly dislike the policy makers I think are traitors because of dual loyaties (liek Pearle). I have no problem with the people that were pro war originally and that want to exit responsibly now as long as they understood/understand all the risks/issues that existed then and now. They made a mistake, but at least it was based on reality. I think the leadership of the left went along with the war because it was politically popular, are against it now because it isn't, and would turn on a dime again if things changed again. They knew they were being spun and lied to. I find that pretty despicable. I think most of the left is so delusional and idealistic that even when they make a correct decision it's by accident. I think a couple of the democratic presidential candiates would behave more responsibly than they are talking now if they won the presidency, but that would enfuriate their delusional base.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109458)	10/7/2007 10:54:29 AM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 132070

<<Ron Paul is the candidate furthest to the right on all economic/monetary matters. He's also anti-abortion. The only appeal he has to the left is that he's anti-war and strongly in favor of civil liberties (a place that libertarians and the left share) But the typical democrat doesn't need Ron Paul to find that and would find the rest of him way too extreme. << By the way, if you turn out to be correct that it's mostly the left that's donating to Paul, I think you've proved my point that the only time the left is correct it's by accident. ;-)