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To: koan who wrote (223625)10/11/2007 6:54:21 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 793561
 
Have you told Ted Kennedy about this ?



To: koan who wrote (223625)10/11/2007 6:57:57 PM
From: goldworldnet  Respond to of 793561
 
"thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican"

I don't dispute it, but also don't recall Reagan saying that. However Republicans are often tough on those that fall from grace. (example Foley and Craig) I really don't think the same can be said of Democrats.

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To: koan who wrote (223625)10/11/2007 6:58:59 PM
From: Alan Smithee  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 793561
 
We liberals feel this is very very bad and undermines the constitution of the United States. If we dems feel we elected a bad president we will run him or her right out of office.

koan, I believe there was an election in 2004 and a majority of the voters concluded they did not want to run the President right out of office. Unless there is an impeachment, and despite certain strident voices there won't be one, President Bush will serve out his term.

You'll have your shot at electing a replacement in 2008.

There is no reason, however, to demean the office. Some of the comments from the left about Bush do precisely that. You can dislike the man, dislike his policies, but I believe Geoff's point is, respect the office. If we as a country can't do that, we've lost a lot as a society.



To: koan who wrote (223625)10/11/2007 6:59:11 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793561
 
a lot of dems even ones on SI thought Clinton should have resigned



To: koan who wrote (223625)10/12/2007 12:45:09 PM
From: Geoff Altman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793561
 
One of the reasons you liberal types have so much trouble in real debates is that you tend to manufacture facts or imply facts where there are none ie:

We got rid of LBJ because we disliked what he was doing.

We didn't get rid of LBJ at all. He was never impeached and in fact he was elected a term after he inherited the WH from JFK:

1964 Nov 3, President Johnson, the 36th president, soundly defeated Republican challenger Barry Goldwater to win a White House term. Johnson won over 61% of the vote with 486 electoral votes to Goldwater’s 52.

Our founding fathers wanted us to question our president.

Here again you're misunderstanding what we're saying. The act of being able to question a sitting President is not in question, it's the way questioning the Presidents policies is carried out.

It's not enough that the Dems simply question the Presidents policies (which can be constructive), the Dems SOP seems to require, along with the questioning, as many personal attacks as possible in order to please their far left base. These personal attacks serve no other purpose than to obfuscate the debate and satisfy the childish vindictiveness of the far left types from Daily Kos and Moveon......

If we dems feel we elected a bad president we will run him or her right out of office.

Obviously, this statement only applies to Republican Presidents since Jimmy Carter (much to Americas chagrin) completed his entire term.....

They framed the whole consittution around that idea e.g only congress can declare war and it cannot delegate it!

Uh, Congress voted to invade Iraq.....Uh, Congress voted for the troop surge.........