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To: koan who wrote (224006)10/13/2007 10:03:09 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793591
 
Tribes care for their ill. Neanderthal cared for its ill.

No they didn't. They put them out to freeze to death in the dark. Life used to be "Nasty, Brutish and short." And still is in most countries.

You Liberals take the adage, "be compassionate," and extrapolate it to "force compassion with other people's money."

Most of us here see the use of Government to do things as a "necessary evil." As did the Founders. You see it as good.



To: koan who wrote (224006)10/14/2007 12:46:59 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793591
 
Surely you jest. Neanderthal didn't send their ill to the hospital. They probably brought them some water, and a hank of meat if the ill one could eat. That's what they could do.

There was no hospital.
No running water....they couldn't even bring the ill one a cold cloth.
No medicine of any kind except whatever bark or grass or tree leaves might work.

We take care of our ill as well. And you darn well know it, if you've been here for more than a second or two.

That doesn't mean that the citizens are required to pay for sex changes of jailed inmates.....and all the etc's that the liberal mindset can think up.

People can have any treatment they want, IF THEY WISH TO PAY FOR IT.

Even back as far as 120 years ago, here in this country, a GreatGrandmother died....She had been around her niece who had the measles. Then she got them herself. She died, was less than 40 years old, leaving 3 children from age 9-12, one of them my grandfather..... She had the best care her family and the little western town could offer at the time. And knowing my family, they paid the Doctor with whatever they could money-wise, and bartered the rest. The neighbors took turns caring for her, and the family, so the newspaper articles say.

They would never have expected someone else pay the doctor for a bill they owed. Never! In fact, while they had not much money to speak of, only land and fruit trees, and some cattle.....but they looked down their noses at people who wanted others to pay for bills they rightly owed.

We would all be better off today if everyone believed this way.

PS....The Alaskan Eskimo used to send their old people out on an ice floe to die. They considered it best for the younger people, and a kindness to the older ones....Read Peter Freuchen's books, if you can find them.
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To: koan who wrote (224006)10/14/2007 1:06:13 AM
From: Joe Btfsplk  Respond to of 793591
 
First, what KLP said.

Then, a serious analysis of the long and painful learning experience that led to a situation where "we" might bring them more than a bite of meat or a few maggots and a handful of water.

Then, investigation of why some organizational entities achieved superior results.

It was not simply the result of exercise of moral intuition.



To: koan who wrote (224006)10/14/2007 9:30:22 AM
From: jrhana  Respond to of 793591
 
I am not a liberal but I wholeheartedly agree with the premise that <A society needs to care for its ill>.