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To: Cogito who wrote (70470)	10/28/2007 3:41:59 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213184

I've never had desktop icons rearrange themselves after a restart. Maybe there's some preference that is causing them to reorder themselves for you. It happens to me, and it's a big pain in the but. I believe it is a bug. I have tons of files and icons on my desktop. I know that strains the system but it's how I work. That's one thing I hate about almost all software makers, they don't fix bugs but they do upgrade. For example Firefox added a bunch of features that are mostly useless, but copy/pastes/selecting, clicking in dialogue boxes are all buggy and crude. I'm on a PPC & Panther so it may have something to do with having more people concentrating on newer machines.

To: Cogito who wrote (70470)	10/28/2007 10:46:06 PM
From: HerbVic	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213184

Yes Allen, I was struggling with en Español tambien. I don't know what triggered my sudden shift. Possibly your new handle, Cogito. It was fun though. And, I must say, you did very well. I understood every bit of it. Por éstas notas, pienso que voy a escribir solamente en Inglés, comenzar ahora. Back to the issues: 1> The regular icons stay put. The hard drive icons (volume icons?) always want to line up according to some mounting scheme. Since I have 4 volumes and 4 backup volumes, I try to arrange then in some sort of easily identifiable pattern. Every time I reboot, I have to rearrange all of them. 2> Check and uncheck screen savers for use by the 'random' function. This has bugged me for a long time. If they put a random checkbox, then they should give us some control over the field of randomness, eigh? 3> Window toggle to full screen. Yeah, I knew about the + button. Trouble is, it only works that way in some applications. Mail? Yes. ... Safari? No. ... Other applications are unpredictable until you try it because ... taa daa! ... It isn't a universal full screen toggle. I'm disappointed, but on the other hand, since this is all I could come up with to grouse about it's not so bad. Congratulations on being a very successful early adopter! I'm still learning new stuff in 10.4 every now and then, but I envy both your success and your pioneer spirit. Keep us informed of details as they manifest themselves. Vivo Leopardo!