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To: Joe NYC who wrote (356700)	10/31/2007 11:08:07 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573876

I almost talked myself into voting for Giuliani. :)

To: Joe NYC who wrote (356700)	11/1/2007 12:03:23 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573876

Giuliani will take on Clinton Inc., he's not afraid. And the liberal media. Fighting and beating New York Times is what Rudy loves to do. I understand.....he's going to lie like he did down below. Jozef, seriously, this is not a new tactic. We're used to GOP candidates and leaders lying over just about everything. And when they can't pull it off by lying, they turn it over to Rush or Fox News. BTW, Rudy won't get away with it like he did in NYC as mayor......we're on to him. ;-) Giuliani campaign vows to lie with impunity Posted October 31st, 2007 at 4:32 pm Following up on this week’s reports about Rudy Giuliani’s patently false healthcare claims, the Giuliani campaign has responded to the criticism. Sort of. If you’re just joining us, Giuliani, in his latest radio ad, tells voters, “I had prostate cancer, five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer, and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States, 82%. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England, only 44% under socialized medicine.” The claim is demonstrably false. Neutral fact-checkers have blasted Giuliani’s dishonest ad — the WaPo awarded the ad “four Pinocchios” — and the Annenberg Public Policy Center tore it apart. We tracked down the source of that number, which turns out to be the result of bad math by a Giuliani campaign adviser, who admits to us that his figure isn’t “technically” a survival rate at all. Furthermore, the co-author of the study on which Giuliani’s man based his calculations tells us his work is being misused, and that the 44 percent figure is both wrong and “misleading.” A spokesperson for the lead author also calls the figures “incorrect survival statistics.” It’s true that official survival rates for prostate cancer are higher in the U.S. than in England, but the difference is not nearly as high as Giuliani claims. And even so, the higher survival rates in the U.S. may simply reflect more aggressive diagnosing of non-lethal cancers, according to the American Cancer Society. Actually, men with prostate cancer are more likely to die sooner if they don’t have health insurance, according to a recent study published in one of the American Medical Association’s journals. Giuliani doesn’t mention that. Everything about the ad is bogus. The mortality rates from prostate cancer are almost the same in America and Britain. Dems aren’t proposing a socialized system. As Ezra noted, Giuliani’s cancer was treated through taxpayer-financed healthcare, using a surgery developed under a socialized system. The good news is, Giuliani’s campaign has heard the criticism. The bad news is, they couldn’t care less about whether they’re lying or not.