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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 3:18:24 PM
From: Don Hurst	Respond to of 281500

>>" Michael,...It might have been a stretch to include you... "<< No, it wasn't.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 3:19:14 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Is there one fp issue out there that you think has been or is being handled well? NK?? Iran?? Zimbawe?? Kosovo??? Cuba?? Mideast??? Libya?? Venezuala?? Am curious...

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 3:22:27 PM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<such brilliant minds as Fareed Zawkawi and Tom Friedman > lol The NYT lefty? why don't U read Bernard Lewis and get Ur head out of Ur ass..............

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 3:25:19 PM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 281500

also his name is spelled Farid Zawawi.............

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 4:12:44 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Coming from two people who have been so glaringly wrong so often, it was too silly to pass up. I've asked you before and I will ask you again Ed, wrong about what? You have never, not once, twice, or a dozen times shown me one single thing that I have stated that is wrong... not ever. You post nonsense allegations, misrepresentations and strawman complaints that I have made claims or supported things that are simply untrue, false, well lets be frank you lie. I don't mind finding out I am wrong, mistaken, or need information about something because that gives me room for growth and I find opportunities for growth every day. But for you to claim I have been so glaringly wrong so often with out the guts to stand behind that statement with links supporting that claim is a malicious and cowardly lie... You are representing wrong so often as a regular thing so since I post several times a day on this thread I'm sure you wont mind presenting those wrong statements that I've posted with links. There must be dozens of them over the past month. I'm calling your bluff, or I'm giving you the chance to prove your allegation with links or apologies. Look at it either way you want. Neither marks you as a dishonorable and cowardly liar. Best regards, gem

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247480)	11/6/2007 4:26:08 PM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 281500

Friedman;> Edward Herman complains that Friedman uses denigrating remarks against Arabs and Arab world: [Thomas Friedman is]...regularly denigrating Arabs for their qualities of emotionalism, unreason, and hostility to democracy and modernization. His classic remark, in the same interview in which he lauds the proxy terrorism model, was that we mustn't go too far in forcing Palestinian concessions because, "I believe that as soon as Ahmed has a seat in the bus, he will limit his demands." Quote from: "The NYT's Thomas Friedman - The Geraldo Rivera of the NYT" By Edward S. Herman The NYT's Thomas Friedman Bill Bonner, the author of Empire of Debt, has said: The man has a plan for everything. That is what makes reading him so funny. He cannot seem to appreciate that the world is a product of many thousands of generations' worth of evolutionary adjustments, compromises, and innovations that he could not possibly hope to know about...nor can he imagine that there is any situation - no matter how remote or complex - that his own little mind cannot improve. Thus does he urge America's voters to insist upon a "Green Election" in 2008. Some of his critics have claimed that he is biased in reporting facts: As Noam Chomsky has noted, the NYT refused to publish a word about Arafat's offer, but there can be no question that Friedman knew the facts (even if the NYT suppressed this information for its readers) and that he ignored them in favor of the oft-repeated lie of the time (and Times), that Israel couldn't find a negotiating partner (see Chomsky's Necessary Illusions and Pirates and Emperors for more on this case and on Friedman's bias). Quote from: "The NYT's Thomas Friedman - The Geraldo Rivera of the NYT" By Edward S. Herman The NYT's Thomas Friedman He is also accused of inconsistency (note: Friedman Unit): Writing recently on Iraq, Friedman has outdone himself in ennobling the invasion-occupation. We came there "with the sole intention of liberating its people" and we are fighting for Iraq's "sovereignty" ("Worried Optimism On Iraq," NYT, September 21, 2003). ... On Tim Russert's CNBC program of September 13, Friedman gave a different version of U.S. motivation. It turns out that WMDs and the "moral reason" were not the "real reason," which Friedman explained as follows: "There were three great bubbles in the 1990s: the Nasdaq bubble, the Enron bubble...and the terrorism bubble." The terrorism bubble is illustrated by the 9/11 event and "blowing up Israelis in pizza-parlors"--not the "sanctions of mass destruction" or Sharon's policies that were killing three Palestinians for each dead Israeli. Lots of Arabs believed in this bubble and, "We need to go into the heart of their world and beat their brains out, in order to burst this bubble." We've done that with the invasion of Iraq and "the people in the neighborhood got it, all right." So the Bush war was not for liberation after all and certainly not to control Iraqi oil and project U.S. power for U.S. (and Israeli) interests. It was to "stop terrorism." This is occasionally claimed by the Bush team and its supporters, but no credible analyst accepts it as a motive and the non-Bush-affiliated analysts almost uniformly argue that the Iraq war will stimulate anti-U.S. feeling and terrorism. Quote from: "The NYT's Thomas Friedman - The Geraldo Rivera of the NYT" By Edward S. Herman The NYT's Thomas Friedman In an interview with C-Span, journalist Alexander Cockburn described Friedman as "one of the most pompous people on the planet who has got, what...three Pulitzer Prizes? I mean, what a disgrace to the profession, if you can call it that, that we should decorate this nitwit with three Pulitzers."